Erio polaris - How / When to split?

[burr740]

Hey guys.


I have this one polaris I think is about ready to be split, but I want to make sure to get it right.

Can anyone tell me if its is time to split now, or should I wait and let it grow more? It's about 3.5" in diameter across the bottom.

From what Ive read, the best way is to cut down the middle with a razor, correct?

How many time should it be divided? I was thinking into four pieces, cut in half, then cut each half in half.

Am I on the right track?

Thanks

 

[Dennis Singh]

I'd wait to it gets to a full mother plant. More fuller than that. You could do it now but thats getting a little greedy. I do this all the time with erios and end up losing them.


Being your first cherry popping, I would split once only, whenever i get greedy with 4 splits its usually a 50% survival rate of the split.


yup you on the right track.

 

[burr740]

How do I know when it's a full mother plant? Any worries about it dying if it gets too mature, like Ive heard some do?


Also this is the one I got from you in that tpt RAOK, remember?


Here it was to begin with, in the suction cup holder, about the size of a dime.

Been nursing this bad boy! Thanks again

 

[Dennis Singh]

Damn you grew the snot outta that bugger.


It looks to be mother size, just needs to fill in a little bit more through the center.


split, razor straight down the center before the you hit the roots. then split with your hands, roots should come off easily with both splits.

 

[burr740]

Yep, that's inert blasting sand too.


I will give it a bit more time to fatten up in the middle. Thanks for the info!

 

[burr740]

OK so now it started blooming or whatever you call these things


(roots are showing because about a week ago, had to scoot it back away from the glass more)

Can it still be split?


Anything special needs doing to the bloom shoots (idk what the actual name is) like trim them off, leave them alone?


Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Dennis Singh]

The actual common name is called a flower stalk aha


pull them out, don't cut them. hold the plant down and they easily pluck right out with your other hand/fingers.


force split away, do x1 for your first


ack! you have glass scratches!

 

[burr740]

Thanks man, exactly what I needed to know.


Yeah this is a very old 20 long, experiment / farm tank.. It's been around the block a few times.

 

[burr740]

Because I like to live dangerously...

 

[Dennis Singh]

Ahaaa if you even get 1 survival rate, you'll get lucky, i see em already they're not going to make it, hot chick though. prove me wrong bur.

 

[burr740]

Here is about 3 weeks after the split. They keep putting out flower stalks, already removed probably a dozen, but otherwise appear to be slowly melting.


Hoping it's just the old growth and they bounce back. The worst one up front has a few new smaller leaves emerging, I think....

 

[Dennis Singh]

More co2


unlimited co2 for split erios


in the realm of tonina, syngonanthus, and eriocaulon, best recovery to try is unlimited co2.


The one on the right front i think is toast...

 

[Dennis Singh]

I saw your post over on tpt, incredible, totally proved me wrong.


So the only change was moving the heart more towards the light?

 

[burr740]

I saw your post over on tpt, incredible, totally proved me wrong.
So the only change was moving the heart more towards the light?

Certainly seemed to help. But there was already hints of new growth emerging as the old leaves proceeded to melt away. They sorta took off after pulling them up some. Could be that I had them planted a bit to deep at first, or it could just be that the new growth had not emerged well enough to see it yet..


Here's the pic

Oddly enough, these front two had the smallest "heart" section left after the split (whatever the correct name). They have always looked worse than the larger two in the back. The back two are still putting out many flower stalks but yet to see any legit new growth. Thinking now they will eventually come around too.

 

[Tom Barr]

Do NOT move them for another month or two. Mine grow pretty quick. E sieboldaniums reproduce well and no flower penduncles.


Blood vomits are a bit touchy also, you get better recover and growth being a bit more conservative with splitting and leaving more meat on them.


This is true for most plants.

 

[nicpapa]

Yes they dont like the move...

 

[SereneAquatics]

Are you using dirt under the blasting sand or heavy root tabs? Awesome your growing them without aquasoil. Very cool.

 

[burr740]

Just blasting sand. There's a little O+ in there but its probably a year and a half since adding any new