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What is the main points of planting Tonina and Eriocaulon ?

Discussion in 'General Plant Topics' started by TetraLover, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. TetraLover

    TetraLover Junior Poster

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    Hello, i come from Hong Kong.:) My english isn't good, but i try my best to talk/discuss with you.

    My Little Tank's information:
    45x30x30 (cm) , about 35 (L)
    two T5 8w (765)
    External Filters
    It is Non co2 Tank
    ADA soild (the black one)
    average temperature is 27degrees(using the fan to cool down)
    fertilizer : Tropica Plant Nutrition 3ml /week, Seachem Excel 5ml /day

    fish: 10 tetras , one dwarf cichlid (some fish and shrimp i don't know their names)
    plants: Tonina , Eriocaulon , Microsorium , Cryptocoryne ......
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    Last time when i try to plant Tonina sp. "belem" ,after a week its leafs(always not the top of the plants) began to be brown. And than it kept turning brown until it died.:( And while i was trying it, i was using ADA Brightly Light and seachem excel .But now, i have already change my fertilizer.

    some photos about it.
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    What is the reason?
    I like Tonina very much, please help me.
    And also, i like Eriocaulon too.
    So i want to know the main points of planting them.
    Thank you.
     
    #1 TetraLover, Oct 3, 2008
  2. Tom Barr

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    Cause seems to be Excel.
    Give it CO2, or do not keep this plant.

    I used Excel on some Tonia species and they did exactly what happened to you, but I was using CO2 as well. Most species do well with Excel, but I think if you want to grow these species, use CO2 gas.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     
    #2 Tom Barr, Oct 3, 2008
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    TetraLover Junior Poster

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    Oh, why do they want co2 gas more than excel?
    thank you:D
     
    #3 TetraLover, Oct 4, 2008
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    Because excel is not as effective as co2. At best they are a 7 out of 10 compared to co2.
     
    #4 Dr.Tran, Oct 4, 2008
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    But i can't add co2 gas because it is expensive to me.(i'm a student)
    How can i decrease the co2 running away from my tank?
    are duckweeds work?
    Thank you:)
     
    #5 TetraLover, Oct 4, 2008
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    Then try another species if you cannot afford it, use DIY CO2 etc.
    Those are the options.

    Excel burnt the Tonia manuas I had.
    Perhaps other folks have had success with Excel and other species or manuas, I have not. Still, if I am adding CO2 and there's much issue with any plant, adding a bit more CO2 virtually always, (9x out of 10) resolves the issue/s.

    You cannot do that with Excel............it's used more as a temporary fix till the CO2 is corrected and it kills some of the algae.

    Basically a "restoration chemical", but long term use is fine for some lower light applications, works very well with HC, many stem plants etc etc

    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     
    #6 Tom Barr, Oct 4, 2008
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    Okay, let me try the DIY co2 system.
    I think i can try to make it if it can help me to keep tonina.
    If i stop adding excel now, will they die?
    My friend had found a species which can be planted at none co2 tank. That is Tonina sp. "uatumg".
    And also, i found Tonina fluviatilis can be planted at none co2 tank.
    When they grew very tall and i cut them, after that they all died.
    But my friend is success! So i want to try this species next time.
    Thank you for you comment.:D
     
    #7 TetraLover, Oct 5, 2008
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