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Discussion in 'Advanced Strategies and Fertilization' started by Rupey64, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. Rupey64

    Rupey64 Junior Poster

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    Could someone that knows what all these numbers mean take a look at my water report and tell me if I should be dosing anything special? I know my water is very hard and has a ph of 7.6 from my own experience but all the other stuff is Greek to me. Should I be dosing some extra Mg or anything else besides the basic EI and micros I dose? Thanks for any help :)

    SOURCE OF CONTAMINANT
    Alpha Emitter pCi/L-
    2008
    8-10 15 0 Erosion of natural deposits
    Beta Emitter pCi/L-2008 2.4-4.6 50 0 Decay of natural and man-made deposits
    Radium 226-2008 1.2-1.8 5.0 0 Erosion of natural deposits
    Radium 228-2008 0.8-1.8 Combined 0 Erosion of natural deposits
    Chlorodibomomethane
    PPB-1999
    .76 100 100 By-product of drinking water chlorination
    DiBromochloromethane
    PPB-2008
    0.46 – 0.88 100 100 By-product of drinking water chlorination
    Chloroform PPB-2008 1.0-2.4 100 100 By-product of drinking water chlorination
    Bromodichloromethane
    PPB -2007
    1.2-1.6 80 100 By-product of drinking water chlorination
    Total Trihalomethanes
    (T.T.H.M.) PPM-2008
    3.6-5.0 80/100 0 By-product of drinking water chlorination
    HAA5 - Total Haloacetic
    PPB-2008
    0.65-2.8 60 n/a By-product of drinking water chlorination
    Barium mg/L-2008 0.077-0.144 2 2 Discharge of drilling wastes; Discharge from metal
    refineries; Erosion of natural deposits
    Chloride mg/L 2008 3.7-14.0 250 - Erosion of natural deposits; Salt water intrusion
    Chromium mg/L 2008 0.00093-0.0014 100 100 Discharge from steel and pulp mills; Erosion of
    natural deposits
    Arsenic MG/L - 2005 0.0021-0.003 10 10 Natural mineral deposit in ground
    Fluorides MG/L-2008 1.4-1.6 4 4 Water additive; Use for dental hygiene; Erosion of
    natural deposits; Discharge from fertilizer and
    aluminum plants
    Copper PPB-2002 8-200 A/L
    1300
    1300 Corrosion of household plumbing systems; Erosion
    of natural deposits; Leaching from wood
    preservatives
    Lead PPB-2008 < 1.8 – 18 A/L
    15
    0 Corrosion of household plumbing systems; Erosion
    of natural deposits
    Magnesium mg/L-2008 33-41 - - Erosion of natural deposits
    Manganese mg/L-2008 ND-0.0018 - - Erosion of natural deposits
    Nickel mg/L-2008 0.0015-0.0043 100 - Metal alloys, electroplating, batteries, chemical
    production
    Selenium mg/L-2008 ND-.0031 50 50 Discharge from petroleum and metal refineries;
    Erosion of natural deposits; Discharge from mines.
    Sodium mg/L-2008 4.6-6.8 160 160 Erosion of natural deposits, salt water intrusion;
    Residual of drinking water treatment process
    Sulfate mg/L-2008 16-31 - - Erosion of natural deposit
    Zinc mg/L-2008 0.0081-0.022 5 - Erosion of natural deposits
    Nitrogen, NO2 + NO3 as
    Nitrogen mg/L-2008
    ND-0.0031 5 - Runoff from fertilizer use, leaching from septic
    tanks; Erosion of natural deposits
    Total Solids mg/L-2008 400-460 - - Erosion of natural deposits
    Hardness mg/L-2008 330-390 - - Erosion of natural deposits; Hardness of water is
    the property attributable to the presence of alkaline
    earths, mainly calcium and magnesium
    Alkalinity as CaCO3
    mg/L-2008
    280-330 - - Caused by the presence of bicarbonates,
    carbonates & hydroxides
    pH s.u.-2008 7.4-7.69 - - A measure of acidity and alkalinity
    above 7=alkaline, below 7=acid
    Conductivity
    umho@25C-2008
    595-710 - - An indication of the level of total dissolved
     
  2. Philosophos

    Philosophos Lifetime Charter Member
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    Is there a site/pdf you could link us to? Looking at it that way I can't tell what the units of measurement is with some of this. I'm sure you can't have some of these in ppm.

    -Philosophos
     
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    Could someone take a look and let me know what they think please??
     
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    The water quality report file seams to be corrupted, but Mg does not look as if it would be limiting from your post. With the high KH it might be necessary to dose some DTPA Fe. What do you dose now for macro and micro?
     
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    Oops, looks like I missed a reply. Sorry about that Rupey.

    From what I can see, Ca and Mg are more than satisfied by your tap water. Nitrates are just about non-existent. The report doesn't seem to give much more info.
     
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    Water looks fine to me.
    First 4 rows are levels of radioactive compounds in your water, all below the maximum allowed level.
    next 6 rows are the levels of halogenated organic compounds in your water, which are organic compounds attached to chlorine/bromine (stuff like chloroform and CFCs). They're pretty toxic but the amount in your water is negligible.
    Everything below that are the levels of certain elements of interest. The important ones i guess are arsenic, chromium and lead, all very toxic. All pretty low so nothing to worry about i guess.
     
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    The only modification might be using K2SO4 instead of GH booster after water changes, say 1/4-1/2 teaspoon per 100liters.

    Typical limestone well water from the midwest(MN, WI, MI, IN, OH, KY, TN, AL, IL etc.)

    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     
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    Thanks a lot for the replies. I guess the only problem I have is when I dose my micros it makes the water cloudy. I'm going to order some iron DTPA and see if that's any better. Thanks again!
     
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    Are you dry dosing? If so are you premixing? If dosing from a stock solution, are you putting in something to inhibit mold and storing it in a solid colored container that won't allow light through?
     
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    Yes, I'd highly suggest using the DTPA in your case or anyone where there is a high KH.
    the other nutrients are fine however, Fe is specific to the KH issue and why you see the white color when the ETDA is added.
    DTPA will not do this and will available to the plants much much longer in solution.

    Regards,
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    Yes I am dry dosing everything. I mix the micros (plantex csm+b) with a glass of water and then dump them in the tank. Same with the macros.
     
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    OK I got the FE DTPA and some new plantex+b mix what would you suggest dosing for a 75 gallon high light, 4x54 watt T5-2 Giesemann aquaflora and 2 Giesemann midday bulbs. Co2 injected through two inline reactors (one on each filter eheim 2217's) with a koralia 2 for extra circulation. CO2 drop checker with 4 dkh solution is always yellow/green? I have been doseing 1/4 tsp plantex each day now so the plants don't show any deficiencies. I was thinking a 1/4 tsp plantex and 1/8 tsp FE every other day? Any thoughts?
     
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    I'd say 1/8 of each 3x a week should more than do the job. It should satisfy your micros and land you around 1ppm Fe dosed per week.
     
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    Thanks Dan, I'll start with what you suggested and go from there. Thanks for all the help!!
     
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