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Discussion in 'Journals' started by SingAlongWithTsing, Apr 6, 2017.

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    Nice tank. Amazing the effect of Burrs micros on plants. It will be nice to see how the plants develop now that the old bits are away and you have less biomass.

    I don't think this works as the first equation estimates Ca from KH. KH estimates carbonates and bicarbonates in water not Ca.

    True both KH and GH are sometimes reported as mg/L CaCO3 equiv. But this is just an equivalent unit of measure. Think of it like when you add urea and say you added urea to the equivalent of 2 mg/L NO3. You never added NO3 but you added as much N as you would have gotten from 2 mg/L NO3. In the same way when you add Mg to water, the GH reported in mg/L CaCO3 equiv. increases, even though no Ca was added.
    So GH is interested in the Ca part of CaCO3, whereas KH is interested in the CO3 part.

    There is a easy way to test this. Take a bucket of RO water (KH=0) and add a bunch of NaHCO3. Test KH again and now it will be 1 or more. You never added any Ca. The CaCO3 equiv is now higher because you added HCO3.

    To get an idea about Mg conc. you need to get a test for Mg for freshwater. JBL makes one. Then you can calculate Ca in a similar fashion to what you did above. However, I would not obsess over Ca:Mg ratios
     
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    API saltwater Ca test works for FW and I've calibrated it.
    This way equation for Mg is a bit better.

    FWIW, I add MgSO4 to my macro mix and always have.:)
     
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    Welp that saved me $50. Apparently I can't read today LOL

    What do you mean by calibrated? Do we use a different chart or something?
     
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    Being a SW test kit and being told it will work for FW. Can't believe everything on the web?:D
    I tested against known made solutions to validate FW accuracy.
     
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    So after using the API Calcium kit I got 4 drops which according to their chart is 80 ppm Calcium. Plugging that into the formula and I got 12.20487805 ppm Magnesium.

    Lfs didn't have any JBL Test kits and they ran out of the ELOS? Test kits
     
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    Minor update

    Trimmed the right side some more, the Bacopa and w/e Ludwigia it is hit the surface again. Moved all the Staurogyene Repens on the right to fill in some gaps on the left. Gonna plant a bunch of Lobelia Cardinalis Small Form in that area next to the AR.Camera isn't capturing the orange/peach color of the Ludwigia tops for w/e reason.
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    Mixed the AR Varigated witht he AR Mini. felt odd to have em spread apart.
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    Bucephalandra Arrogant Blue, been in here for a couple of months now.
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    Limnophila Aromatica Hippuroides
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    Fert Regime:
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    Lobelia Cardinalis Small Form from Sean Bartlett
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    Fruit stand style: AR Mini, Lobelia, Bacopa Colorota
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    not shown is a Barclaya Lognifolia Red recovering somewhere behind the fruit stand

    Unknown crypt. I had it in this tank a couple of months ago (the huge reddish one), it shrunk from a lack of ferts and high temp (83F?) while it was in my dad's arowanna tank. Hoping it'll fill out that huge dark gap.
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    Using @Phishless 's idea with plant plugs. Couldn't find ceramic ones so I used 3/4" pvc + some poly-fil. I have like 5ft of black 3/4" PVC lying around somewhere in the house, will probably end up using it for plugs.
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    Planning to plop and drop Ludwigia filled plugs when I clean up the center of the scape. The plug idea seems so good on paper with the biggest pro being more room for my cory cats.
     
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    More plants
    Ordered some Bucephaladra Theia Blue and Green Wavy from @Phishless , and he threw in some Microsword and Ranunculus too
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    more Buce to the Buce hedge/wall
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    the tall ones
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    and yes i planted the new batch of buce like stem plants like Phishless did. The part of rhizome under the substrate will rot but roots will still grow and take its place.
     
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    Updates
    Re-adding Ludwigia Perunesis/Glandulosa
    Added more Limnophila Hippuroides
    Added Rotala Indica
    Considering removing Mermaid Weed
    Considering replacing the Ranunculus with Panthorum Seiodes
    Considering Moss Carpet in the shaded area under the Windelove Javafern
    Considering replacing the power head with a surface skimmer
    Might separate the Ludwigia Perunesis/Glandulosa and Limnophila Hippuroides depending what colors they put out

    Rescaped about 1/3rd of the tank due to PAR numbers
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    New fert routine starting today
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    Like the new layout.

    Posted this on TPT but in the latest dosing chart, Mo has one too many zeros, should be .0015 ppm doses, and Ni is missing one, should be .0005 ppm doses.
     
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    copy pasted from TPT

    Ni is 0.0005 per dose.

    Purposely keeping Mo at 0.00015 this batch, I think my tap actually has some already (city's report says there's any where between 0.0018 to 0.005, average being 0.00281). Was previously dosing 0.0015 per dose in the old Ver 16 Fert Chart.

    Idk if it applies to aquatic plants but I think I had too much Mo and it might have been causing a faux Fe deficiency in my S.Repens. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/playing-rules-biochemical-sequence-nutrient-caitlin-blackman
     
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    Hope you are happy with the Buce?

    Note: ranunculus needs attention, when you see a runner clip it, lots of extra leaves of various heights can be achieved this way.

    Peruensis vs. glandulosa ?
    Hope someone can truly explain this one to me.

    Glandulosa: Wikipedia
    Ludwigia glandulosa, the cylindricfruit primrose-willow, is an amphibious plant from southeast United States.
    It can grow partially or fully submerged. It grows very slowly and needs carbon dioxide in order to grow well.
    The leaves of this plant will turn greener if not enough light is provided.

    Cavan discussed this in a thread on APC a few years back.
    If in fact what we have is glandulosa, what have I purchased in the past that rotted away?
    Looking for pics of both side by side, I know I took the pics?
    Maybe text a pic to Cavan for an ID?

    That looks like the same emersed grown peruensis I recently purchased.
    I've tried what was labeled glandulosa 2 times (emersed form) just to watch it disintegrate within 36 hours.
    I mean all leaves start to drop off and stem turns black.:confused:

    Started an experiment with my new peruensis.
    Cleaned it all up and split it up into 3 ceramic rings. It came loaded with snails, scuds, and some miniature worms.
    1 ring is in a 100PAR zone right under a puck, even old growth now has red leaf tops.:D
    2nd ring is in the same zone but not right under a puck, growing @ same rate but old growth did not get red tops yet.:)
    3rd ring is under a puck in the 80PAR side of the tank and it is just there shall we say, nothing bad, just there.o_O

    Sorry to HiJack here.:D
     
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    yeah I'm happy with em :D

    will keep that in mind

    This was 7-8 months ago when I was messing around 0.2 Fe Gluconate
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    really hoping the current batch I have right now turns out to be Perunesis. It's from the same seller from a couple months back so chances are high.
     
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    Pretty sure it is peruensis.
    Pic from my 1st batch.
     
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    got more plants today, thanks @burr740

    Leopard Val, Limnophila Rugosa, Panthorum Seiodes, and Hydrocotyle Tripartia Japan
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    tfw you run out floor space so you have to start using the walls. Suction cupped the Rugosa for now til I make room. under estimated the leaf size lol
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    not sure what I'ma do with the Leopard Val yet
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    Panthorum Seiodes. Been looking for this plant for the past 2 years xD
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    So you are a plant collector too!:D
    You could use Joe's wall method just without the moss.:rolleyes:
     
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    Suction cupped lol, Nice! Ive never thought of that. And just wait til they get bigger, those arent exactly large ones [​IMG]

    Thats a good place for the Penthorum, nice splash of brightness

    Also a good place for the Val, probably depending on how the current treats it when it gets tall. Wasnt sure if you like that or not, I just like complicating the lives of others sometimes :)
     
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    Small update:
    Finally got more Denison Barbs. 2 from LFS ($15 ea) and 2 from a Petco ($10 ea). Pic of the LFS one, will color up more in the upcoming months. Have a total of 9 of em now.
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    Perunesis is still a lil bit twisted
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    Still getting random holes on some leaves on various plants, 2nd set of leaves and below usually
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    might be a K deficiency?

    current fert routine. might up the K to 36 or 40 ppm per week
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