TE Fertilizer

oxburg

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Due to unable to find CSM+B in my country I looked up another kind of TE Fertilizer.
But I not sure whether is it appropriate for aquatic plant.
Please comment around.Thank you.

Detail :
Ca - 4.2%
B - 0.6%
Mg - 1.2%
Mn - 0.12%
Fe - 0.6%
Zn - 0.6%
Cu - 0.12%
Mo - 0.01%

it stated mix 10ML to Liter.Can I know how to count the PPM?
Thank you so much~
 

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Chelator? 1%=10,000-ppm

oxburg;60400 said:
Due to unable to find CSM+B in my country I looked up another kind of TE Fertilizer.
But I not sure whether is it appropriate for aquatic plant.
Please comment around.Thank you.

Detail :
Ca - 4.2%
B - 0.6%
Mg - 1.2%
Mn - 0.12%
Fe - 0.6%
Zn - 0.6%
Cu - 0.12%
Mo - 0.01%

it stated mix 10ML to Liter.Can I know how to count the PPM?
Thank you so much~

Hi,

Actually that looks pretty good. The copper ends up being the problem, can you get a separate source of iron.

Does it say anything about chelators or complexing?

1% = 10,000-ppm and 10ml in a liter is 1%

I do not think for your purposes you need to dilute it any further for a stock solution.

What size tank do you have?

Biollante
 

oxburg

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Thank you for the responses and the information :)

Yeah I got extra EDTA Iron for the extra Iron.

I just rescaped my tank 2 days ago.My tank is 15G (2x1x1ft).

So the fertilizer i got listed 1% is meant 10,000 ppm inside?

Let say the fertilizer is 1L and 1% of Fe meant 10g of iron inside it?
 

nipat

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oxburg;60400 said:
Due to unable to find CSM+B in my country I looked up another kind of TE Fertilizer.
But I not sure whether is it appropriate for aquatic plant.
Please comment around.Thank you.

Detail :
Ca - 4.2%
B - 0.6%
Mg - 1.2%
Mn - 0.12%
Fe - 0.6%
Zn - 0.6%
Cu - 0.12%
Mo - 0.01%

it stated mix 10ML to Liter.Can I know how to count the PPM?
Thank you so much~

Although liquid ferts probably don't have the same density
as pure water (TPN weights 1.04 gram per 1 cc.). But (I think)
it's accurate enough for our hobby to calculate it using pure water weight
(1 gram per 1 cc.) if the specific weight of your liquid fert is unavailable.

So let's say 1cc of your fert weights 1 gram or 1000 milligrams.
So there is 42 milligrams of Ca in it. Your 15 US gallons is about 57 liters.
So 42 milligrams of Ca is 42÷57 = 0.737 PPM.

The 10cc per 1 liter instruction is probably for terrestrial plant since it will be
too concentrate for planted tank with fish.

Agree with Bio that Cu ratio is too high. I would supplement it with other
traces. Try looking at Wet calculator for comparing its ingredient ratio with
CSM+B. http://calc.petalphile.com/

Or with TPN: http://www.fishfriend.com/fertfriend.html

Hope that helps. :)
 
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Hi

Thanks Nipat, Nipat as usual spots the real problem and is correct assuming (T)he (W)eight of (W)ater (a novel idea novel by Anita Shreve) is close enough to the weight of the solution.

The thing that I should have noticed during the last post is the high amount of Calcium, to dilute TE fertilizer enough to make the Calcium reasonable you lose most of the value of the other elements.

I should also have been clearer in my “1% =10,000-ppm," what I meant was that TE fertilizer converted from percentage to parts per million would be:
Ca - 4.2% = 42,000-ppm
B - 0.6% = 6,000-ppm
Mg - 1.2% = 12,000-ppm
Mn - 0.12% = 1,200-ppm
Fe - 0.6% = 6,000-ppm
Zn - 0.6% = 6,000-ppm
Cu - 0.12% = 1,200-ppm
Mo - 0.01% = 100-ppm

The copper problem would not have been insurmountable, you would need to be careful with invertebrates and certain plants (vals leap to mind).

Without the Calcium this could work since you have extra EDTA iron to dose.

Sorry, I got so focused on the copper I missed the big one…:eek:

Biollante