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Substrate for emersed setup

Discussion in 'Sediment / Substrate' started by Noledoc, May 3, 2011.

  1. Noledoc

    Noledoc Prolific Poster

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    Can you use topsoil without mineralization in a emersed setup?
     
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    Yes?

    Hi,

    Sure you can use most anything.:eek:

    What are planning to use with the topsoil?:confused:

    Biollante
     
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    Thinking of laying down an inch of partially mineralized topsoil, adding some pellet Ferts and turface-type black substrate covering it, both from aquarium plants.com. Plan on an emersed setup with water level just under the top of the substrate. Lights will be T5HO about 3.5 wpg. How does that sound? And thanks for your response.
    Paul
     
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    I like that layering of substrate, the economy of topsoil, nutrient value of pellet Ferts and aesthetic of black turface as a visible layer.
     
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    Thanks Crispino. It's all done now, 5, 20 gal rubbermaid setups, all with a mix of topsoil, the turface-type substrate from aquarium plants.com and 3 mm gravel. They are all planted wi emersible aquatic plants I got from Drs Foster/Smith. Excellent quality and amount btw. I forgot the Ferts!! I'm think that I can let the topsoil supply most nutrients for a few months. I'm misting with a solution of liquid Ferts diluted in water. How does this sound to you? Lights are from two sets of T5HO, 4 lamp x 48" these are all emersed but in containers when full that hold about 20 gal each. I figure that would be equivalent to about 4.36 wpg. Your feedback?
     
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    Hmmm... Fertz...

    Hi,

    You will need to add fertilizer as the nutritive value of top soil is about zero.:eek:

    Biollante
     
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    If you are not going deal with fish and algae, I think it will be easier for you to just use a complete NPK + micros foliar fertilizer, like a 20-20-20 + micros, you can find small bags for indoor plants and gardens. You usually apply it once a week.

    Emersed plants are just like normal tropical plants plus a high humidity requirement.

    Cheers,
    Juan
     
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    How do you figure that? Most all commercial top soil contains mulch and manure which is nitrogen rich, and he said he was going to use "partially" mineralized soil which would mean he is adding trace minerals and possibly macros depending on what recipe he is following for "mineralization". But, even to his original question, even without mineralization, it should have plenty of minerals for at least one season, and the organic material will provide plenty of nitrogen. Thats what I grow my flowers and veggies in. No ferts required
     
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