Single NV to dual

[Gerryd]

Hi all,

I currently have a Nuaire/Victor VTS253A-1993 regulator with an Ideal NV and Swagelok check valve and post body.

I want to enhance this to have TWO NV to feel dual atomizers for the 220. I think feeding one from each canister will provide better c02 with a larger footprint to cover...

In general I assume I need to copy the parts from the solenoid OUT and then a few fittings to split to dual NV from a single solenoid?

So from the solenoid:

1. I need a split to each NV setup. I guess a dual manifold?
2. I need a new NV, CV, fittings, hose barbs, etc to tie them all together.

Anything else I am missing?

Appreciate the assistance.

 

[pat w]

These are Fabco's but the configuration should be what you're going for. GLA has this setup.

It looks like just a couple of brass elbows, some 1/8" nipples, and then you attach the NV's and the CV's and you should be good to go. Parts can be spec'ed on the Clippard site then you could search other sources.

Pat

 

[Gerryd]

Pat,

Thanks. It wasn't until AFTER I posted that I remembered that a manifold was what I wanted and were available commerically....

I had even seen threads here on them...

I have a spare CV from swagelok and some spare post body as well. Just need a new NV from Ideal and one of those configs in 1/8 NPT (iirc) and I should be good to go.

Thanks!

 

[Left C]

I believe that your fittings are stainless steel. You could make a similar splitter like Pat is showing using Swagelok stainless steel parts. I'll look the parts up for you, if you wish.

 

[Left C]

Here are three different versions of a splitter for using two needle valve assemblies with Swagelok stainless steel pipe fittings.

1 x SS-2-MT - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Male Tee, 1/8 in. Male NPT, Price: $15.60
1 x SS-2-SE - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Street Elbow, 1/8 in. Female NPT x 1/8 in. Male NPT, Price: $16.00

or

4 x SS-2-HN - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Hex Nipple, 1/8 in. Male NPT, Price: $4.60
1 x SS-2-T - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Tee, 1/8 in. Female NPT, Price: $20.50
1 x SS-2-E - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Elbow, 1/8 in. Female NPT, Price: $15.60

or

3 x SS-2-HN - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Hex Nipple, 1/8 in. Male NPT, Price: $4.60
1 x SS-2-ST - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Street Tee, 1/8 in. Female NPT x 1/8 in. Male NPT x 1/8 in. Female NPT, Price: $23.10
1 x SS-2-E - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Elbow, 1/8 in. Female NPT, Price: $15.60

 

[Gerryd]

Here are three different versions of a splitter for using two needle valve assemblies with Swagelok stainless steel pipe fittings.

1 x SS-2-MT - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Male Tee, 1/8 in. Male NPT, Price: $15.60
1 x SS-2-SE - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Street Elbow, 1/8 in. Female NPT x 1/8 in. Male NPT, Price: $16.00

or

4 x SS-2-HN - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Hex Nipple, 1/8 in. Male NPT, Price: $4.60
1 x SS-2-T - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Tee, 1/8 in. Female NPT, Price: $20.50
1 x SS-2-E - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Elbow, 1/8 in. Female NPT, Price: $15.60

or

3 x SS-2-HN - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Hex Nipple, 1/8 in. Male NPT, Price: $4.60
1 x SS-2-ST - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Street Tee, 1/8 in. Female NPT x 1/8 in. Male NPT x 1/8 in. Female NPT, Price: $23.10
1 x SS-2-E - Stainless Steel Pipe Fitting, Elbow, 1/8 in. Female NPT, Price: $15.60

Hi Left C,

Thanks much as always. I use brass and NOT SS.....So I can use the same part # but w/o the ss prefix...

I will go to the swagelok site to see which combination would be best for me.

Thanks again!

 

[Left C]

Hi Left C,

Thanks much as always. I use brass and NOT SS.....So I can use the same part # but w/o the ss prefix...

I will go to the swagelok site to see which combination would be best for me.

Thanks again!

That's right. You can simply substitute a "B" for the "SS" in the part numbers to get the brass versions.

I listed three versions because I do not know the width of the spacing between a male "T" when connected to a street elbow. This may or may not allow enough spacing between the needle valves. I know that if you use a hex nipple that this spacing will be more. There is also the option of using either a close nipple which is less spacing than a hex nipple or the options of various lengths of hex nipples. This gives a wide range. I just didn't want a combination of parts that would bring the two needle valves too close together.

You end up with various combinations of a "F" shaped manifold. If the section between the two horizontal parts of the "F" is too narrow, the needle valves may hit each other. Does my description and concern make sense? I do not have these parts in hand to check them out. Hopefully, you can use a minimum of parts to keep your costs down like in the first combination listed. On the other hand, whenever you have more parts, you can tweak a bit here and tweak a bit there to get the width and the aesthetics that will be needed like in the second combination listed. The third combination of parts to make a manifold is a bit of both.

Please let us know which one that you end up using or if you go with something different.

 

[Matt F.]

Here is the catalog for pipe fittings. I'd use a "T" fitting after the solenoid, two needle valves, and two tube adapters.
http://www.swagelok.com/downloads/WebCatalogs/EN/MS-01-147.PDF

GLA is good for what it is, but you want better quality components that won't cheapen your rig(s).

 

[Left C]

Here is the catalog for pipe fittings. I'd use a "T" fitting after the solenoid, two needle valves, and two tube adapters.
http://www.swagelok.com/downloads/WebCatalogs/EN/MS-01-147.PDF

GLA is good for what it is, but you want better quality components that won't cheapen your rig(s).

That pdf of Swagelok's pipe fittings sure makes it much easier to find the fittings that we are looking for.

Thank you very much for posting it.