Scotts Premium Topsoil + Eco-Complete

Hi

I'd like to start up a 20g long or a 37g using a mix of topsoil and used Eco-Complete with a white sandy area in the front. I have a huge piece of driftwood (20"x10") that forms a 'snakey M' shape. Inside the 'M' will be the white sand. Behind the 'M' and to the sides will be the Eco-Complete + topsoil mix topped with black gravel or black sand.

I have a new 20g long and a new 37g. I can use either. I'm planning on using pressurized CO2 and I have a 30" 2x65w Orbit fixture that I can run one lamp or two. One lamp is the Coralife Colormax/6700K and the other one is the Current 6700K/10,000K. I also have a new Eheim 2028 and a new Filstar xP2. Again, I can use either.

The topsoil that I purchased has me a little concerned about it's organic matter. I bought a 0.75 cubic feet bag of Scotts Premium Topsoil (Product No. 71130750). I couldn't find any info about it at Scotts' website: Scotts: Product Guide: Soils

The ingredients section on the bag says: "This product is regionally formulated with organic materials (derived from one or more of the following: peat, composted forest products, aged rice hulls or compost) and Sphagnum Peat Moss. {In California this product is formulated with composted forest products and Sphagnum Peat Moss.} I'm in NC, so I have the first product mix.

I have a few questions:
Will this topsoil work in a planted aquarium?
Will the compost cause a problem? I don't think that it contains manure.
Do I need to get a 'lesser' quality topsoil?
Do I need to bake it or soak it?
Should I just return it and get some ADA Amazonia?

Thanks for any info.
Left C

PS: While Googling I found a good article about substrates: Substrates for Aquarium Plants

 

Hi Hoppy

I'm glad that you chimed in. I read your river silt/SMS DIY article. That's what got me thinking. Your tank looks very nice.

Would baking the topsoil @450° F for ~ an hour accomplish the same thing as boiling it? Or is boiling it the best way? I can do either.

Left C

 

I have one more question. Should I add K2SO4, MgSO4∙7H2O and CaCl2∙2H20 to the topsoil for K, Mg and Ca? My tap water has a low GH, usually less than 2. Or, should I add Barr's GH booster? I plan on using the following dosing regimen: http://www.barrreport.com/estimative-index/3209-want-more-accuracy-want-daily-pmdd-style-ei-dosing.html

 

Thanks Hoppy for your help and input.

I guess that there are some things that need to be test driven by a guinea pig. I have more than twice of every thing that I need and I can try it based on a 'best guess theory.' Heck, the worst thing that can happen is that I end up with a little bit of mud. I'm sure the plants will make it just fine.

Thanks again
Left C

 

Hi ceg4048

Thanks for chiming in.

I'm not really sure if I want to try this or not. I have ~ 30 lbs of used E-C and I was wanting to use it up. I saw Vaughn's tank using delta silt and SMS and it got me thinking about trying something like it. Then I read Tom's Report Newsletter - "Analysis of Sediments" and it made me more curious.

Today I went around to various stores to see what topsoil is available. I saw a broken open bag of the Scotts Premium Topsoil like I purchased. It was full of organic matter, wood chips, sticks, etc., but it was a nice black color. I think that there could be a decaying problem and other problems with this stuff. The ingredients section on the bag says: "This product is regionally formulated with organic materials (derived from one or more of the following: peat, composted forest products, aged rice hulls or compost) and Sphagnum Peat Moss.

Today, I found another topsoil product. A bag was broken open and it was more of a sandy clay substrate. I think that it would probably be better in the long run. It was Scotts Earthgro Topsoil. The ingredients section says: This product is regionally formulated from organic and inorganic materials derived from one or more of the following: peat, compost, ash, sand or native topsoil.

I've done some research and Tom recommends mixing soil with Seachem's Onyx Sand. If I go that route, I may as well try some ADA Amazonia. There wouldn't be much difference in the price then.

It's a head scratcher for sure, ceg4048 and I'm not sure what I want to do. In may ways, using the Amazonia for this tank makes a lot of sense like you suggested.

The tank will have pressurized CO2. I already have an AP.com's "The Best" regulator and an AM Reactor 1000. If I use the 20g long for this, the 2x65w Orbit will be temporary and I may get a 30" Nova 2x24w HO T5 freshwater fixture for it. That'll be 2.4 wpg then. The Orbit fixture was originally purchased for the 37g and that would be 3.5 wpg.

As far as ferts are concerned, I can do EI or most any other dosing regimen. I'm doing this fert regimen for three tanks now and it's working really well for me.

I'm really not interested in doing an experiment or trying to 'reinvent the wheel' or anything like that. I don't know what to add to the soil to make it work. I just want a simple planted aquarium to house some dwarf cichlids.

Left C