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Replacing my Old CO2 Regulator

Discussion in 'CO2 Enrichment' started by inkslinger, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. inkslinger

    inkslinger Guru Class Expert

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    I am going to replace my co2 3m Regulator with a Smith 30-100 CO2 Regulator , I replace my solenoid with a Burkert 6011 1/8in port and would like to keep my old bubble counter and needle valve. I need to find the parts number for a in-line brass check valve parts list from Clippard for my co2 hose .
    Does any one know what size of a reducer will be needed for the Smith Regulator? and a check valve between my needle valve and bubble counter {needle valve is male end and bubble counter is female end all in 1/8in ports}


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  2. Left C

    Left C Lifetime Members

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    Hi ink!

    That's a $100 medium duty single stage regulator. You can get a very nice two stage regulator for less than this. Smith 30-100: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/SMITH-EQUIPMENT-Medium-Duty-Regulator-5EFW9?cm_mmc=GoogleBase-_-Welding-_-Supplies-_-5EFW9&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5EFW9

    two stage regulators
    new Concoa 312: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280723068967&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
    new Victor HPT270: http://cgi.ebay.com/VICTOR-HIGH-PURITY-GAS-REGULATOR-HPT-270-80-580-BV-/350484100143?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519a7af42f
    used AirGas: http://cgi.ebay.com/AIRGAS-120-80-346-V-COMPRESSED-GAS-REGULATOR-USED-/230658307826?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b44e76f2

    What are you thinking? You are just throwing your money away. Unless something is bad with your 3M, you should keep it. You aren't going to be any better off with that Smith regulator.

    Do you like the 3M needle valve? Why not replace it with an Ideal? (or a Swagelok or Parker metering valve) That's a good solenoid, BTY.

    Can do. You'll need the check valve plus the barbed fittings. The multi-barb fitting comes with the gasket and the single barb fitting doesn't. You'll have to order the gaskets separately if you get the single barb fitting.
    MCV-1BB: check valve with female #10-32 ports - http://clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=MCV-1BB

    Does your CO2 tubing have an 1/8" ID? If so, here are some choices of barbs for use with the MCV-1BB check valve.Note that you will need the gasket too.
    multi-barb - 11752-1-PKG (gasket included): http://clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=11752-1-PKG
    single barb - 11752-4-PKG (gasket is not included): http://clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=11752-4-PKG
    gasket - 11761-2-PKG: http://clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=11761-2-PKG

    As far as I know, that regulator has a 1/4" NPT port.

    1/4" male NPT x 1/8" female NPT - Clippard part: 4CQN http://clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=4CQN-BLK

    You'll need a nipple with the above part. This is also listed below. So, get 2 if you use the Clippard 4CQN and the check valve combination below.
    Brass Pipe Fitting, Hex Nipple, 1/8 in. Male NPT - B-2-HN: http://swagelok.com/search/find_products_home.aspx?part=B-2-HN&item=1ae2f19e-f6c2-4c05-aeda-f918ddde8050

    OR

    You will not need an extra nipple if you use this reducing nipple.
    Brass Pipe Fitting, Hex Reducing Nipple, 1/4 in. Male NPT x 1/8 in. Male NPT - B-4-HRN-2: http://swagelok.com/search/find_products_home.aspx?part=B-4-HRN-2&item=e254464f-20f7-457f-a9a9-c8602af7276e

    There are different ways to do this.

    Male check valve with an adapter.
    Brass Poppet Check Valve, Fixed Pressure, 1/8 in. MNPT, 1/3 psig (0.03 bar) - B-2C2-1/3: http://swagelok.com/search/find_products_home.aspx?part=B-2C2-1/3&item=c80b8fbe-343c-49a5-8ef1-2a086c6523b7
    Brass Pipe Fitting, Adapter, 1/8 in. Female NPT x 1/8 in. Male NPT - B-2-A: http://swagelok.com/search/find_products_home.aspx?part=B-2-A&item=0bbba2ea-8033-4a89-9860-dcb802a7f8ac

    Female check valve plus a nipple.
    Brass Poppet Check Valve, Fixed Pressure, 1/8 in. FNPT, 1/3 psig (0.03 bar) - B-2C4-1/3: http://swagelok.com/search/find_products_home.aspx?part=B-2C4-1%2f3&config=N
    Brass Pipe Fitting, Hex Nipple, 1/8 in. Male NPT - B-2-HN: http://swagelok.com/search/find_products_home.aspx?part=B-2-HN&item=1ae2f19e-f6c2-4c05-aeda-f918ddde8050
     
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