question on filling after the dry start up

First off, thanks Tom and everyone else here on the forum for the great site and the great advice. I've poured through the threads on this board and really learned a lot while avoiding many of the pitfalls that I went through when i first tried plants years ago.

Now onto my question... I read and really liked the idea of the dry start up tank so much that I decided to do that with my 55G tank to create a nice bed of Glossostigma, as well as some other assorted hairgrasses and crypts. I planted in flourite gravel, that i then dosed with NPK+ trace. I've been using a 2x55W @6700K AHsupply for lighting, plus the two 15W strips that came with the tank @5000K (figure the more the better for this stage). The lights are on 12 hours a day.

I had some melting, and generally the gloss has not filled in nearly as well as I'd hoped after ~3 weeks. After a little thought, I realized that the lack of growth is probably due to the cold daytime temperatures of my house when no one is home (drops to approximately 60 degrees) for most of the day, and then is about 68 at night.

First off, does this sound reasonable? There was no mention of room temperature in Tom's article, but I'd assume that its expected to be about standard tank temperature.

If this is my problem, would I do better just going about it the normal way with filling the tank and growing from there? And if/when I do fill the tank, what temperature should the water be at? I don't want to melt what gloss I have grown so far, and will most likely need to add more plants to initially outcompete the algae. I'm not sure if I should add water at my room temp (~60s) and gradually heat the water up with a heater or just add ideal temp (~78) and the other plants to outcompete the algae.

I'm a student currently living at home with my parents, so just raising the daytime temp is not really an option.

Thanks alot for your help, and hope I haven't forgotten anything.
Mike

 

Anyone have any idea, or even an educational guess?

Thanks in advance,
Mike

 

Thanks guys for the input,

I've been adding ferts through the the excess water at the bottom rather than a mister as I'd be wary of burning the plants with ferts being sprayed directly on leaves. I know this is a problem for fertilizing garden plants, and seeing as these are being grown emmersed, I worry about the same problem.

As for the filling, I think I am going to half fill with same temp water, and then heat the water from there, adding the additional plants the next day. This should give minimal time for algae growth while still allowing me to plant and not melt my plants.

Also, I would think it'd be important to start CO2 injection when I submerse my plants so that they don't melt due to lack of CO2 either.

Sound like a decent idea?

I hope I don't mess this up. =/

Mike

 

Hey Wiste,
I guess its impatience depending on your viewpoint. I was using the emmersed method of growing because I thought it seemed both a quicker and easier way to grow the plants. Now, having realized its probably slower, I'm less inclined to want to continue doing it.

The tank temperature, after having the lights on all day is 68 F.

Mike

 

Thanks guys for all the informative responses,

The time aspect was what initially drew me to the emmersed growing, but it sure wasn't the only positive I saw for myself. I'll probably hold out as long as I can, but after Thanksgiving starts family parties at my house, and I might have a bit of trouble explaining to my family and friends the very odd looking garden I have growing in the entertainment room =).

I'm happier with the growth now then when I posted originally, and although its not a full mat, its on its way. At the very least, along with the addition of some stem plants, I feel that I'll have significant enough biomass to keep algae from ever getting a foothold, as well as a fully cycled tank.

I realize that the half filling is not going to prevent algae, and was not suggesting that it would. Rather, I was concerned about the water temperature I should use when adding to my plants which have been growing colder than the standard tank temperature. I thought through it, and decided my best bet might be to add water that was the same temperature as the room, then raise it with a heater until it reaches the desired tank temp. I thought to do it half filled, as that will still allow me to plant all my stem and other plants as well when the tank does reach the desired temp.

This is my first real attempt at a planted tank, so I might be treating the gloss too delicately, but I'm not the one to say. I figure if I just add 78 F water and the plants end up dying back or something, I'd be pretty mad at myself.

Thanks again guys, and feel free to keep laying on the suggestions.

Mike