Please Help Starting Eclipse System Six Tank (EI, Excel, Low Light) (Long-- sorry!)

Hello to All,

And many thanks in advance. I have read many books (including Greg Watson's guide to dosing) and been all over the internet looking for advice, and this forum is the most grounded, fact-based one I have found for planted tanks. I'm embarrassed to say that I still feel over my head, and would love some advice. I hope this doesn't seem too wordy, or too thick-headed.

Following Tom's guidelines, I will begin with my goals-- in between low-tech/low-maintenance and C02. I would like to change water 50% once a week. I am happy to dose fertilizers and liquid carbon once a week. I would prefer not to do much testing, apart from standard tests for Nitrites, Nitrates and PH. Low light and slow growing is fine with me, but for the health of my fish and my own peace of mind I do want the water changes.

Tank: an empty two year old Eclipse System Six, with a substrate of First Layer Laterite and gravel, about 2-3 inches thick. This was not layered, but mixed, as I had already set up the tank and was buying plants when LFS recommended Laterite. At the advice of the LFS (a very good store) I changed the aging Eclipse T5 Bulb to an AquaGlo, which still has only 8 watts but apparently greater lumens (which I later read doesn't make any difference...?). That gives me about 1.5 w/gallon, which from my reading, is slightly less than low light for small tank.

Water: According to the water department our local water has 25 mg/L of Calcium, 140 mg/L Chloride, less than .01 mg/L copper, 1 mg/L Fluoroide, less than .05 mg/L Iron, 5 mg/L Magnesium, .46 mg/L Nitrate, 79 mg/L sodium, 27 mg/L Sulfate, 1.95 mg/L Chlorine. The hardness is 84, and PH is 9.1 on the website, but I have never tested higher than 7.0 using my home testing kit (which leaves me wondering how different the other numbers would be...). I use Seachem Prime when doing water changes.

Plants: 1 Anubius Batari, 1 Amazon Sword, 1 bunch Dwarf Ambulia, 1 bunch Anacharis, 1 bunch Bacopa (I think Caroliniana), and one small pot Brazillian Microsword, all recommended by the LFS as good for low light tanks, except the microsword which he said was "worth a try." All plants were growing submerged when I bought them.

Fish: 4 Orange Von Rio Tetras and one African Dwarf Frog.

Plants were added last week with Laterite. After a week (I wasn't cycling, just trying to give the plants some time to settle) I added the fish, along with Biospira. For now I am doing daily readings of PH, Ammonia, Nitrites and Nitrates. If the Biospira doesn't work, I will do daily water changes (40%) and if it does, I expect to start a regular weekly 50% water change starting on Sunday (a week from when I added the fish). I will not feed the fish until tomorrow, as recommended. Current readings are: Ammonia 0, Nitrites 0, Nitrates 20, PH 6.5, temp 80 degrees F.

Because I want regular water changes I assume that I will be doing the EI with Excel method, which is fine with me. But for some reason I can't figure out from doing searches on the forum exactly what amounts I should be using. I have purchasd Flourish Excel and Flourish Comprehensive supplement (micro and only traces of Nitrogen). The only macro fertilizer I could find was Kent Pro Plant which has Nitrogen but no Phosphates (they claim that as a plus but I know from reading you disagree) and no Potassium.

What dosing would you recommend for Excel? Would Excel plus micro-nutrients be enough, given my fish load and local water profile, or should I add Macro nutrients as well? If so, what dosing would you recommend?

Lastly, and less urgently, I have been told to add algea eating shrimp when the tank establishes itself (Amano), but the shrimp websites I have visited seem to feel that shrimp and fish (even peaceful fish) should not cohabitate. Any thoughts?


Thanks so much in advance for your help. You can probably tell I have been living alone with this information for too long.

PS Here's my tank, still looking pretty red from laterite, IMO.

 

Thanks to both for the replies.

fjf888: by desk lamp, do you mean a regular desk lamp, like people use to study? How did you get the light into the aquarium, which has a hood?

Carissa: I am intruigued by the idea of overdriving my bulb by 50%, but not being sure what a ballast is, don't really know where to start. Is there a more detailed description out there on the net somewhere?

At the moment I am much more of a mom than a fish hobbyist, so I may just just go ahead using the 8W with Excel and some Seachem fertilizers (macro and micro) and see what lives and how spindly it gets. Here's what I'm currently dosing:

Flourish Excel, 5 ml with 50% water changes, and 1/2 - 1 ml a day
Flourish Comprehensive, 1 ml/week with water changes
Kent Plant Pro (Nitrogen), 1 ml/week with water changes

That leaves me no Potassium and no Phosphates. Given my too low light setup, is that okay? Or should I buy some Flourish Macros to add them in too?

Thanks in advance. Now I'm off to try and find the ADF that has vanished under my driftwood. Hope I haven't bit off more than I can chew!

 

Holy Moly!! You sure do have experience with this! I have bookmarked your website, so that if and when I decide to overclock my light I know how to do it. And I have ordered the macro fertilizers from Seachem.

Came downstairs this morning to find our female Tetra had died. The only thing I can attribute it to is shock, since the water parameters are still fine (0 ammonia, 0 nitrites, 0 nitrates). And I still can't find the dwarf frog. When it comes time to change the water this Sunday I'm going to lift the driftwood just to make sure he's still alive.

Thank you so much for your interest and feedback.

BTW just out of curiosity, as long as one is replacing the ballast, why not just use two lights instead of one?