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Phishless 80G Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Phishless, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. Greggz

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    Phishless I can't believe it..........looks like you are actually taming that tank!!

    Plants are looking nice and healthy, and I like the way it looks thinned out just a bit.

    And I saw your sale ads, and someone could fill up a pretty sizable tank with a great selection there. Wish I had room, but the last batch I got from you put me over the edge!
     
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    It is starting to get tamed.
    Selling off more, sometimes even the better pieces since I know I can get them all going again.

    Regarding healthy, problem plants are macrandra and mini-butterfly.
    They are a problem due to shading.
    Now they are both thinned out in a higher PAR area.
    Watching and learning, they both grow rather well but not showing well.
    Cabomba furcata is a strange one, but no side shoots or extras just nice tops from the trim.
    I really don't need more.

    I've sold a lot, even to local people and LFS.
    About $1300 this year, not to shabby for a hobby.
    I sell cheap and warn people they will get extras.
    For me this is not an earning/financial endeavor, just can't bear to toss it all.
    When trimming it's like I only keep 1/3 and the rest hits the trash
     
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    Evening All:

    Well as many know I purchased 3 leopard cory's and two disappeared.
    This was a calculated Phish purchase.
    Don't need anything to eat algae or grossly pollute the tank.
    I just want the substrate scoured, keep things from collecting and always moving.
    Sooooooo, I went to a local club meeting Saturday(try to attend 3 or 4 a year), good group and nice people.
    And in the auction were 5 - C123 Cory's "Yellowcat".
    Well they came home with me, turned out to be 7 in the bag for $22, who would argue?

    Got really worried last night, floated bag, dumped them in a floating container.
    Over 1.5 hours I kept adding my tank water, eventually netted and released.
    They all hit the bottom like a rock and didn't move for who knows how long.
    I hope this works out, they are all swimming around even with the leopard and eating sinking pellets tonight.

    Trim is still happening while selling more, my every 6 week nightmare.
    Really thinning out this go around.
    Hopefully some decent tank pics within the week.

    55G is almost empty for the 33G swap.
    Terminated all Ethernet cable for PWM dimming and sold most lo-tech plants off.
    Wife claimed 2 trios of the Moscow guppies, rest have left the house!
    Found a local buyer for the 40L and the 55G, more space in my shop!

    My only fear in the tank swap is 5 green gecko crypts I could not part with.
    Will they melt going into the hi-tech capped soil environment?
    Don't think I should worry, if so they should come back way better in soil. But the waiting!:D

    Night All:
     
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    Cory C123 day two, traveling around in a school and go right after sinking pellets.
    Hope they don't melt!:D
    Going to plant more this eve and maybe take some pics.
    Upside! miniB and macrandra are showing improvement in higher PAR of 100.
     
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    Evening All:

    Sometimes the path of enlightenment is a rough road.
    My recent plant acquisitions included rotala magenta, L.glandulosa, L. rubin broadleaf, and L.ludwigia peruensis.
    R magenta that was really trashed @ a terrible discount price is kicking along with improvement.
    Glandulosa & rubin have suffered extreme stem rot and mostly death.
    What gives here, many difficult plants are thriving.

    L.peruensis has shined above them all. No lost stems and rooting into the substrate.
    Have not even pulled this from the clay pot yet, been short on time.

    Tried increasing ferts in both CO2 tanks and water looks rough.
    80G is a bit foggy and 75G can't see from front to back with clarity.
    Diatom filter will be put to use very soon!

    Sometimes I hate all these plants!:D

    Weighted plants bunches are floating and swirling around as I type.
    Soon I will have my shitake together.

    Night All:
     
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    Is the foggy effect due to green water? Or just must from Co2?

    I love L. Puerensis, please, lost some pics whenever you have the chance. I love to see your plants, thanks!
     
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    The taming is going on here!
    Water is cloudy still and takes away from things.
    I am trimming short and trying to plant better these days.
    Even in this cloud this side of tank is 100 PAR at sub.
    Red plants are happier for sure.
    Still too many weighted plant bunches bobbing around.
    [​IMG]

    Foggy in this one is not CO2 or green water.
    A light white haze right now.
    Diatom filter this week.

    ludwigia peruensis is on the right and the AR that no one wants is on the left.
    I don't really know the ludwigia P. new to me but it may replace the AR in this tank.
    Will depend on how quick it grows, clay pot was grown emersed.
    Transition to submerged is quick and sound with this one.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Interesting you still have cloudy water. I had this white fog a couple times in two different tanks, but it usually cleared in a couple of days. I just ran filter floss, no diatom filter. Isn't the clouds just a bacterial bloom......or actually I remember when I was using my straight well water, the precipitating iron or something would cause the water to be cloudy for a few days. Can you see any differences in the density of the fog near your filter output? I could see this pearlescent, swirling pattern in my water when it was bacterial in areas of high water turbulence. I wonder what the case is in your situation? Your tank reminds me of a soap-opera style dream sequence. It's what I dream my plants will be one day :p
     
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    Well the 80G seems to be clearing on it's own.
    The 75 is another story, got home and it is worse.
    Today, right before diatom filter got going.
    Officially started @ 7:10pm we shall see this eve.
    [​IMG]

    Hoping I don't have to change the media.
    It is showing improvement as I am typing @ the 20 minute mark.
    Plants in there I thought I no longer had!o_O
     
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    This 75 is really bad, 12 hours runtime didn't clear it up.
    Second 12 hour run started this eve.
    Lot of green gooey going on in the filter when cleaned.
    It is green water of the extreme.
    Not sure what brought this on.
    Tank, dosing, lighting, substrate always the same.
    Not a high PAR tank, only about 50 at substrate for 2 years.

    80G is cleared up on it's own.
    Corys are all alive, none have vanished.
    Local breeder stock was most likely better the LFS stock too!
    Some more trimming and planting this eve.
    Want to get a few pics later too.

    Might be back:
     
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    Did you recently disturb the substrate much? That could do it
     
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    Haven't touched the sub other than pulling a few plants which is normal.
    SafeTSorb for substrate, even did a huge vacuum in this tank 4 months ago, no issues.
    Diatom filter is pretty much a 1 micron deal, it's not cleaning it up well.

    Missed an entire day and then some.
    Sore throat, sweats, chills, fever, etc...
     
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    After the flu I am still not quite myself.
    Good thing @Greggz is taking care of my phish!:D

    80G frag tank cleared up on it's own.
    Pristine clear water, tested @ TDS198 and dropping, GH & KH are @ 7 respectively, ammonia = 0, NO3 @ 5-10ppm, and PO4 @ .5
    Considering an R/O unit to start slowly bringing this down to about 3KH.
    I may have dosed too much of everything all @ once.
    Cory's are all alive and happy still eating sinking pelleted food.
    I must say they are doing there job up to this point.
    Sub is stirred enough and no NH3 readings thus far.

    75G is yet another story.
    Clarity is about 50% improved from usage of diatom filer(48 hours), not where it should be.
    Green water bonanza going on still.
    I will let this run it's course for now.
    Don't have the energy to try and remedy @ this time.
    All an experiment right now!

    Lost a lot of extra plants lately, had to move them out of the tank Saturday eve.
    They have not done well with minimal light so they hit the trash.
    Due to the flu the 33G is just not ready, but I have plenty to get it going.

    Night All:
     
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    Happy Thanksgiving a few hours early!!!
    Thanks to FDR in 1941 I believe, tomorrow is a Holiday!

    I have not quite recovered from the flu.
    Lost many plants that I moved to a bucket on Friday due to zero light.
    Oh well, it's not like I needed any more.

    Cory's are doing quite well!
    Pic does not due justice though, that top fin is extremely yellow just doesn't look that way in pic.
    Riccia façade has not went back on the screen yet.
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    A 1/3rd tank shot from this eve. water is all cleared up.
    Pristine water clarity now but a little low on ferts to my liking.
    [​IMG]

    R.macrandra is looking much better, will not trash this yet.
    Higher PAR seems to be helping.
    [​IMG]

    New buce is doing well, it is a small variety though!
    [​IMG]

    Evening All:
     
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    Tried to grab a better pic of the new buce.
    Could not quite capture all of the little dots on the leaves though.
    It's a tough shot to get.
    [​IMG]

    smIMG_2337 (2).jpg
     
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    80G has cleared up really well.

    I need some advise on the 75G, something other than using a ladle to remove the green soup.
    It is thick, plants growing well but extremely green water.
    Running it's course is not the solution I have found.
     
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    Maybe take a close look at your tubing/filter, maybe there is some funk buildup somewhere, hiding, lurking in the shadows. I was searching through the forums to see what other people did when they had this issue. I found a couple threads.

    https://barrreport.com/threads/green-water.13804/

    https://barrreport.com/threads/bad-mix-green-water-brown-algae.6188/

    Never had green water myself, except for that one time I left a bowl of fertilizer water in the sunny window for a week. You could totally start a colony of daphnia in another tank and feed them your water, I’m sure you could make some coin selling live food :p
     
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    Boy wish I could help. Really strange in a healthy tank with plants growing well.

    Have you tried a UV light? I have heard some people say it works.
     
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    Regarding the "Green Water" 75G
    Cleaning Purigen every other day and using a 1 micron pad in the canister changed daily.
    My UV light is officially dead right now and I will get another if I don't see the end in site.
    Thanks for the link @burr740 , price is right I suppose.
    Tank is clearing but slowly, when I can see more I'll do a WC and vacuum and clean filter.

    33G new tank may go in Sunday.
    Plumbing and CO2 reactor are complete this eve.
    If the 33G is done by Monday I can wash/rinse 75G plants and move to the 33G.
    Then the real cleaning of the 75 can begin.
    Need to rehome about 30 platy's in a hurry though.
    This is part of the "Phishless" journey!
    I'm keeping my amano shrimp and redtail shark in the 75G.

    The frag tank is doing great!
    A small amount of algae (hair & GSA on glass @ a minimum) easily cleaned up this eve.
    MiniB has made a come back same with macrandra and limno Vietnam.
    Rotala magenta (whatever it is) has new growth that shows great improvement.
    Cory's are still kicking and happy with sinking pelleted food.
    New planted plan I believe for mid & back ground plants.
    Going to use ceramic rings w/3 stems per ring on all plants not in the front lineup.
    This will make trimming easier for sure, need to get some more ceramics though.
    Rings will never be noticed since front of tank has short slow growers going on.
    Tied all mesh along the front with riccia again, not my favorite but hides everything else going on.
    Going to try and get some pics this eve of all the winning items.

    Looking into a higher megapixel camera too with macro lens.
    I have the funds but squeak @ all times when spending money.

    Next trim I will have to thin out a large stand of Buce.
    Hoping that I will have a quick sale on this mess.
    Been eyeing up BucePlant for some new plants too.
    Thinner leaved variety along with a large broad leaf form.
    They grow rather quick in terms of Buce in a hi-tech tank but trimming is not so frequent.

    Night All:
     
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