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Osmocote Outdoor and Indoor okay to use?

Discussion in 'Aquatic Plant Fertilization' started by Whiskey, May 20, 2011.

  1. Whiskey

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    I have read a great deal about Osmocote Plus both here and on other boards, and I would love to give it a try, but after looking at a few stores tonight, all I could find was Osmocote Outdoor and Indoor.

    I looked around on the internet, and found a couple old posts saying this was okay, but I wanted to check with everyone here first.

    Has anyone used it?
    Thanks,
    Whiskey
     
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    Hi Whiskey

    Osmocote Outdoor and Indoor just contains N, P, K (19-6-12) and no trace elements. It also contains a large part of ammoniacal nitrogen. You don't want to use this. Specs: http://www.scotts.com/smg/products/osmocote/PDF/Osmocote%20-%20O%20_%20I%20Product%20Page.pdf


    I got my Osmocote Plus at Lowes. Fertilizer Analysis: 15-9-12 plus 9 other essential nutrients.

    Guaranteed Analysis 15-9-12: http://www.plantersplace.com/Products/Osmocote-Plus.aspx
    Total NITROGEN (N)
    8.0% Ammoniacal Nitrogen
    7.0% Nitrate Nitrogen 15.0%
    AVAILABLE PHOSPHATE (P2O5)† 9.0%
    SOLUBLE POTASH (K2O)† 12.0%
    CALCIUM (Ca)† 1.9%
    MAGNESIUM (Mg) (Total)†
    0.7% Water Soluble Magnesium (Mg) 1.4%
    SULFUR (S) (Total)†
    4.0% Combined Sulfur (S) 4.0%
    BORON (B)† 0.02%
    COPPER (Cu) (Total)
    0.05% Water Soluble Copper (Cu) 0.05%
    IRON (Fe) (Total)†
    0.42% Water Soluble Iron (Fe)
    0.03% Chelated Iron (Fe) 0.45%
    MANGANESE (Mn) (Total)†
    0.06% Water Soluble Manganese (Mn) 0.06%
    Molybdenum (Mo)† 0.02%
    Zinc (Zn) (Total)
    0.019% Water Soluble Zinc (Zn)† 0.05%

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    Do you mean Osmoform? It is different than the regular slow release Osmocote Plus: http://www.scottsprofessional.com/en/osmoform.html

    Osmoform

    Osmoform is a slow release fertilizer. The working principle is not based on a coating around the granules like with Osmocote, but on long nitrogen chains breaking down slowly. This process is influenced by temperature, micobiological activity and humidity.

    Osmoform contains NPK, magnesium and a package of trace elements. The nitrogen composition is balanced to have quick plant reaction after application and a long lasting effect afterwards.


    3 Osmoform types are currently available:

    Osmoform 1
    19+5+13+3MgO+TE

    Osmoform 2
    18+5+13+2MgO+TE

    Osmoform 3
    18+9+13+2MgO+TE
     
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    I know they're different forms/products. My question is - "Is Osmoform 3 better than Osmocote Plus?". Would it last longer than Osmocote Plus? Does it release nitrogen gradually instead of spikes coming from ammoniacal nitrogen/urea?
     
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    I didn't know that Osmoform 3 existed until I started looking around after your post. I don't think that I would try it because the nitrogen source is from urea mostly and a little bit of the nitrogen comes from ammonia.

    Osmoform 3
    18+9+13+2MgO+TE


    GUARANTEED ANALYSIS: http://www.scottsprofessional.com/files/zHvToNxzQ5.pdf
    18% TOTAL NITROGEN (N)
    2,6% Ammonical nitrogen
    0,8% Urea nitrogen
    15,4% Urea formaldehyde
    4,9% soluble in hot water
    4,9% soluble in cold water
    5,6% not soluble in water
    9% PHOSPHORIC PENTOXIDE (P2O5)
    Soluble in neutral ammonium citrate and in water, water-soluble
    13% POTASSIUM OXIDE (K2O)
    13% Water-soluble
    2,0% MAGNESIUM OXIDE (MgO)
    Water-soluble
    0,10% Iron (Fe)
    0,15% Manganese (Mn)
    0,020% Zinc (Zn)
    0,120% Copper (Cu)
    0,03% Boron (B)
    0,010% Molybdenum(Mo)
     
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    Osmoform 1
    19+5+13+3MgO+TE


    GUARANTEED ANALYSIS: http://www.scottsprofessional.com/files/UsuRCmwy1y.pdf
    19% TOTAL NITROGEN (N)
    3% Ammonical nitrogen
    0,8% Urea nitrogen
    15,2% Urea formaldehyde
    5,1% soluble in hot water
    5,1% soluble in cold water
    5% not soluble in water
    5% PHOSPHORIC PENTOXIDE (P2O5)
    Soluble in neutral ammonium citrate and in
    water, 4% water-soluble
    13% POTASSIUM OXIDE (K2O)
    13% Water-soluble
    3,0% MAGNESIUM OXIDE (MgO)
    Water-soluble
    0,30% Iron (Fe)
    0,1% Fe-EDTA
    0,08% Manganese (Mn)
    0,020% Zinc (Zn)
    0,060% Copper (Cu)
    0,02% Boron (B)
    0,020% Molybdenum (Mo)



    Osmoform 2
    18+5+13+2MgO+TE


    GUARANTEED ANALYSIS: http://www.scottsprofessional.com/files/QBSDXsVb1U.pdf
    18% TOTAL NITROGEN (N)
    2,3% Ammonical nitrogen
    0,8% Urea nitrogen
    14,9% Urea formaldehyde
    5,0% soluble in hot water
    5,0% soluble in cold water
    4,9% not soluble in water
    5% PHOSPHORIC PENTOXIDE (P2O5)
    Soluble in neutral ammonium citrate and in water, water-soluble
    13% POTASSIUM OXIDE (K2O)
    13% Water-soluble
    2,0% MAGNESIUM OXIDE (MgO)
    Water-soluble
    0,20% Iron (Fe)
    0,07% EDTA chelated
    0,08% Manganese (Mn)
    0,020% Zinc (Zn)
    0,050% Copper (Cu)
    0,02% Boron (B)
    0,020% Molybdenum (Mo)
     
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    Hmm,.. that's too bad. I've been to Lowes, Home Depot, Target, and Wallmart,.. none of them had anything but Osmocote Indoor/outdoor, and Osmocote Flower something or other.

    What about Jobe's plant sticks? How do they compare? Are they okay?

    Thanks,
    Whiskey
     
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    Thanks for all the information, I'll check out Seachem's Flourish tabs at Petsmart.
     
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    I've been using the Flourish tabs, and they have worked pretty well for me - but I was hoping for something with a little more kick to it. I end up using the entire pack in my 30G tank, and replenish them every few months. I'm okay with that, but if there is a way cheaper alternative, I'm definitely game.

    Whiskey
     
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    Here's a bit more info about the Flourish Tabs. http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/FlourishTabs.html

    Guaranteed Analysis
    Total Nitrogen - 0.28%
    Available Phosphate - 0.17%
    Soluble Potash - 0.16%
    Calcium - 14.9%
    Magnesium - 0.06%
    Sulfur - 12.2%
    Boron - 0.029%
    Chlorine - 0.55%
    Cobalt - 0.001%
    Copper - 0.001%
    Iron - 2.2%
    Manganese - 0.23%
    Molybdenum - 0.0009%
    Sodium - 0.14%
    Zinc - 0.0024%
     
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    Do you have an Ace Hardware nearby or would you want to order some Osmocote Plus?

    Many folks used the Jobes stakes for palms and ferns with good results.


    These may be what you are looking for. Here are the Root Medic tabs. They seem to be a bit stronger and they are in larger "00" capsules now: http://rootmedic.net/products-page/dry-nutrients/1-rm-complete
    Guaranteed Analysis:
    Nitrogen: 14%
    Phosphate: 10%
    Soluble Potash: 11%
    Calcium: 1.9%
    Mg: 1.4%
    Sulfur: 3.7%
    Boron .02%
    Copper: .05%
    Iron: .5%
    Manganese: .05%
    Molybdenum: .02%
    Zinc: .05%


    pfertz has some root tabs too: http://www.pfertz.com/analysis.html#roottabs


    Another choice is to make your own with dry ferts and mud in ice trays. Then push the frozen "mud cubes" into the substrate like in the sticky.
     
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    Those root medic tabs do look good.

    We had an Ace right down the road from me, that I went to all the time but they knocked it down to build a hotel for reasons nobody can figure out.
    However! I think there are more of them around - I will find out. Thanks for the tip!

    Whiskey
     
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    Good luck!
     
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