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Discussion in 'CO2 Enrichment' started by barbarossa4122, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. barbarossa4122

    barbarossa4122 Guru Class Expert

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    Hi,

    Can you supply co2 accurately without using/relaying on a bubble counter ?
     
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    What type of needle valve do you have ? Are you using a Reactor or diffuser, Do you have a solenoid valve ?
    IMO: I have too see how much is coming out of the co2 regulator, You can pick up a bubble counter real cheap on eBay for like $4. or make your own with a baby jar or pop bottle.
    You can also use a cup of water to get your flow going to were you want it an run it 24/7 {if you don't have a good needle valve the bubble count will drift and crash your tank an kill all your fish} But I would use a solenoid valve and controller to shut it off when the idea ph is reach
     
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    Hi,

    I have Fabco NV 55, Burkert Solenoids, diffusers (http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co2-diffusers/atomic-diffuser-65.html.) and bubble counters (http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co2-bubble-counters/ista-bubble-counter-check-valve.html).
    If you like to see the pics please see post #33 here:
    http://www.barrreport.com/showthread.php/7278-A-Primer-for-Pressurized-CO2/page4
     
  4. Gerryd

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    Hi,

    I do not use a bubble counter.

    I use a needle wheel and the c02 line is positioned under the PH, so I can see the bubbles going into it.

    However, when I had a mazzei, I simply used a cup of water in a glass from time to time to compare.

    You can usually tell when your c02 is not working...takes some time and experience though....
     
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    Thanks Gerry. So it takes experience to run co2 without using a bubble counter.
     
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    So you have every thing nice ? Why wouldn't you want to look at a bubble counter? It gives you an idea of how much co2 your putting in.
    I don't think that it can't be done if you didn't have any thing to show you that you can supply co2 accurately into a tank with out killing every thing or not enough.
    If you didn't want to use a bubble counter you could bubble in real low {like 1 bps} an run it 24/7 with a Drop checker and keeping an eye on your fish at leas to let you know where your at an tweak it , With your regulator you wouldn't have to worry about drifting or end of tank dumping.
    It's done safely with a DIY co2 setup, it runs 24/7 with out a bubble counter .
    ME I would use some kind of bubble counter to supply co2 accurately into my tank .
    How do you like the Atomic diffuser , I plan on picking one up my self to from GLA also for back up for my Mazzie but right now I'm getting some fine micro mist with it.

    :gw
     
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    I will use a bubble counter, just wondering if it's necessary, Now, I know it is. I am waiting for the diffusers sometime this week. When I get them I'l post the results.
     
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