Need help with dosing

Noxtreme

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So i did a ton of research around this time last year on setting up an auto dosing solution for my tank using dry ferts and don't you know I never got around to actually buying and mixing it because I crashed my tank and let it go by the way side for many months. I got the auto dosing setup all set up and working but i never got around to mixing a solution with dry ferts because I was using up all the old stuff i have sitting around.

Now i have forgot the mixtures i came up with and i cant seem to track down where i wrote it all down (i know.. DUMB). I'm hoping some folks may be able to help me get back up to speed by suggesting what to buy and how much to mix.

My tank:
- 54 gal corner bow front
- Light: 130 watt pc + 36 watt T5 = total 166watt === 3.07 wpg
- Pressurized co2 at at least 30ppm
- Medium/heavy Fish load
- LOTS of substrate and wood (probably only 40-45 gal of water volume)
- I'm using tap water

My goals:
1. Daily dosing using peristaltic pump.
2. Missing a weekly water change would not be the end of the world but will usually be performed. (would be nice to only have to do them every other week but i know this is a lot to ask)
3. Want to use dry ferts and mix my own solution

I know i will need to dose iron separate since i only have one peristaltic pump.
Please suggest and help. :)

Anyone think i could get away with just dosing tropica???
 
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Hi Noxtreme,
Your tanks seam to be doing well. What exactly were you dosing before? All in one solutions can be tricky because of PO4, but you could try the one at Jame's planted tank- http://www.jsctech.co.uk/theplantedtank/allinone.htm

Or, rather then dose iron separately you could dose your phosphate separately.
Noxtreme; said:
I know i will need to dose iron separate since i only have one peristaltic pump.
Please suggest and help. :)

 

Noxtreme

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I've dosed just about everything at some time or another with the exception of dry ferts. If your talking about the "scape #2" pic i was dosing the PFERTZ line then.
I'm not looking for an all in one solution, just an almost all in one. Your right with the idea i should dose the po4 rather then iron separate since i will probably have the least need for po4.
can you suggest how much of what i should mix in order to get an almost all in one solution using dry ferts taking into account my tank stats and goals.
or point me to where i should look in order to figure it out quickly again. Yes i know this forum is full of the info i need but I really dont want to spend hrs relearning and deciding. I was going for a pmdd mix before i think.
 
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Noxtreme

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Funny story....
The sword you see in the front of my tank in scape #2 has bba. Well that bba was my nemesis for months and months.. I would kill it with hydrogen peroxide which worked well but can crash your tank if the water has to low buffering capacity (I had a very close call). Then i switched to trying to kill it with flourish excel and co2 which again worked well but never seem to completely kill the stuff. If wold be completely gone but then spring back up in the same spots. Then i figured skrew this i'll just kill it the old fashion way (what i thought was the safest) and blacked out my tank for 72hrs. when i pulled off the cover all looked well but a few plants looked pretty scraggly and the water was very gross. So i did a 70% water change and replanted my whole tank. Well as i was adding the last 5 gal of new water i noticed it smelled horrible like rotten eggs. it was hydrogen sulfide (HS2). The water i had gotten a few days earlier was from a closing fish store. Well apparently they had shut down there ro system and what was left was just the 500 gal holding tank with no circulation so i got stagnant water.
Well long story short I did to much at one time and all the factors together = TANK CRASH
Lost 3 nice discus 3 nice blue rams, 3 large Siamese algae eaters, about 13 cardinals and 4 whisker shrimp
Strangely all 3 oto's lived and 3 corey cats lived as well as a beta. Weird i know since coreys seem to die if you look at them wrong.

Anyway now I've got 3 new discus, 2 large clown loach (which need a bigger home), 1 large German ram (not sure what kind but its big), and about 8 small fish (mix of rummy nose, cardinal, and 1 unidentified). They were all given to me by a friend who had his 90 gal decide to empty on his living room floor one night.
full circle
 
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Good luck with all of those fish.

BBA is more about, CO2.

Rotten egg smells could be BGA. Bright light, low levels of NO3, high levels of CO2, organic wast and/or poor water currents are part of that cause. So, cleaning and vacuuming the gravel, staying on top of your filter maintenance and improveing flow, keeping nitrate levels above 10ppm, should all prevent BGA.

On the earlier post I listed two suppliers of dry fertilizer. For now, get some teaspoon measures, order GH booster, KNO3, KH2PO4, some CSM+B and you should be set. There is really nothing wrong with following the basic EI method until you find a solution to your all in one solution,
:p http://www.barrreport.com/showthread.php/2819-EI-light-for-those-less-techy-folks

Wet's nutrient calculator is very helpful for what you are trying to do,
http://calc.petalphile.com/

Ca and Mg, Look it up. :gw
 
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Noxtreme

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alright. Got it all figured out again.
I think i'm going to try a pps-pro method. Well see how it works out. I'll have all the ferts though so i can always switch to a liquid EI daily dose method. Thanks for your help.