Monte Carlo Possible In This Tank?

Dd1880

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Anyone know if it would be possible to grow a carpet of Monte Carlo in my 29 gallon no co2 tank? I dose Nilocg thrive for my rrf, java fern and Anubis. I have a Chihiros rgb 60 set at 50% now and am slowly raising to get the rrf red. Was just wondering if it was realistic to grow MC since I saw some at my lfs the other day. I only have gravel also. Thanks for any help.

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Dd1880

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I don't think so. You could dose with excel but honestly without CO2 carpets are tough.
Ok thanks! How about if when I break this tank down and dirt it with a sand cap? I would probably not do red root floaters again. If I did put them in again it would only be 1/4 of the tank instead of 3/4. Thanks for any help.
 

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I have monte carlo in my 7.9 tank, and based on my experience, it will carpet but without c02 it will be really slow. When you purchase the bunch, break it up into different clusters so its more spread out in the tank so each grow independently. Also, best bet would be to replant the shoots that break off into the tank so you start more plants. I cant tell how deep your substrate is based on the picture, but i would recommend an inch or more for their roots. To make it go faster, you could try excel, but use it cautiously and do your research, look at all your plants after dosing since it does kill/weaken mosses and other types of plants aswell.
 
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I have monte carlo in my 7.9 tank, and based on my experience, it will carpet but without c02 it will be really slow. When you purchase the bunch, break it up into different clusters so its more spread out in the tank so each grow independently. Also, best bet would be to replant the shoots that break off into the tank so you start more plants. I cant tell how deep your substrate is based on the picture, but i would recommend an inch or more for their roots. To make it go faster, you could try excel, but use it cautiously and do your research, look at all your plants after dosing since it does kill/weaken mosses and other types of plants aswell.
Ok thanks for the info! As long as it grows and looks healthy I don’t care how fast it grows! I will probably wait till I move and break the tank down any way! Then I was thinking of using dirt with a cap. I would get AS but don’t know if I want to shell out that much money just for substrate since I want to scape it. In your tank without co2 how long did it take to look like a carpet? Also what light are you using and how bright is it set? Thanks!
 

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The tank is 3 months old, i added c02 around 3-4 weeks ago and i still don't have a full carpet, but i notice that growth has definitely increased. I a chihiros RGB 45 light on it at 70%
 
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The tank is 3 months old, i added c02 around 3-4 weeks ago and i still don't have a full carpet, but i notice that growth has definitely increased. I a chihiros RGB 45 light on it at 70%
Thanks! I have the Chihiros rgb 60. Love the light. The commander 1 works very well also. Very consistent when setting sunset/sunrise function. I have mine set at 55% right now. Slowly raising it trying to get my red root floaters red or at least the roots haha. Good to know my light is strong enough to carpet Monte Carlo. Was it carpeting at all without the co2? I appreciate the replies because I haven’t come across anyone on the forums that had the rgb like me!
 

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No problem, feel free to ask away and message me any time, I'm also learning, so I'm sure there's stuff that you experienced that i may benefit from aswell and we could turn this into a mutual/symbiotic learning experience haha.

The plant was growing and letting out mini stems that i would always have to replant across the tank, they are easy to find because they float to the top of the water but are annoying because they could get stuck in your moss as the flow pushes them around. The leaves were also smaller without c02. As a side note, im only dosing between 12-15ppm C02 at any given time since i have shrimp in the tank and im trying to find the perfect balance of plants to shrimp breeding. Im pretty sure my stem plants are taking up a majority of the c02, so i dont know how much the monte carlo is actually getting, so it could very well be that the plant grows much better after like a month in the new tank even without c02. I've gotten a lot more mini stems recently.

Long answer to your short question XD
 
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No problem, feel free to ask away and message me any time, I'm also learning, so I'm sure there's stuff that you experienced that i may benefit from aswell and we could turn this into a mutual/symbiotic learning experience haha.

The plant was growing and letting out mini stems that i would always have to replant across the tank, they are easy to find because they float to the top of the water but are annoying because they could get stuck in your moss as the flow pushes them around. The leaves were also smaller without c02. As a side note, im only dosing between 12-15ppm C02 at any given time since i have shrimp in the tank and im trying to find the perfect balance of plants to shrimp breeding. Im pretty sure my stem plants are taking up a majority of the c02, so i dont know how much the monte carlo is actually getting, so it could very well be that the plant grows much better after like a month in the new tank even without c02. I've gotten a lot more mini stems recently.

Long answer to your short question XD
Haha yeah thanks. I was thinking about dirting the tank and using a sand cap! Haven’t made up my mind yet. Might just get a aquasoil and pay the $! Either way don’t think I’ll be dosing co2 anytime soon. I’ve been reading up on the walsted method and Tom Barr’s non co2 method! Might give it a whirl either way good to know the Chihiros rgb is strong enough to carpet Monte Carlo! I didn’t know that’s how it propigated. I thought it sent out side shoots and kinda crawled across the substrate. Not letting floating stems off haha. Thank you for the info cause it’s giving me hope of doing a scape that I have in my head using Monte Carlo!