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Lighting Recommendations for 4ft. 70 gallon.

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by kevinmichael77, Oct 21, 2015.

  1. kevinmichael77

    kevinmichael77 Guru Class Expert

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    As the title says I'm looking for recommendations to light my four foot tank. I'm looking for medium light range as I probably won't do CO2 in the beginning and if I eventually do at CO2 it will be very minimal. I was to keep the tank pretty low maintenance and may even just go the excel route.


    Tank is about 18" tall and I think I want to stay away from LED's at this point. May add one just for color but later down the road. Flora won't be anything to extravagant but may want a carpet of hairgrass or something down the road.


    Any help would be appreciated!
     
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    A cheap dual industrial t8's would be good easy start


    my rec
     
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    If I decide to go with T8's will that be enough if I decide to inject CO2 eventually? I don't want to break the bank with a light fixture but I'd like enough lighting to inject small amounts of CO2 in the future if I so choose. Would two 4ft Sunblasters be enough to inject light CO2? I'm using two 3ft fixtures over my 40b just dosing excel and ferts here and there with seemingly no issues. For this tank I won't be doing any real difficult plant species I don't think.
     
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    The lower the light along with co2 the better, you will see a nice enriched growing aquarium, with higher light=higher upkeep, uptake, more more of everything, its harder to get consistency. For anyone starting a low tech I'd recommend lower light with light co2 you can see the range (colors, growth) compared to higher tech (lighting)
     
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    Are there any fixtures you could recommend? I'd like to get something that looks nice as it will be in the living room. Also it will most likely need to be hung from the ceiling.
     
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    Not nice ones no, i just recommended shop lights.


    DIY? You good with? t8's, t5's t12's all pretty simple mechanism constructed, just a ballast, those cone wire connectors/attachers, cord/plug and build the exterior can make a nice looking one


    if your too lazy with that


    hmmm


    something that looks nice? Maybe go leds? Two 48" planted plus or 1 ray 2 (but light spread won't be as good)


    light spread doesn't seem to come up much, it should though


    cheap?


    a single or dual odysea t5


    um...


    Theres plenty of nice fixtures out there by the different teams


    I bet Barr would know em since he posted that light timeline postymajigg
     
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    I use the ATI sunpower units, not cheap but look slick and will be good for anything you want to do including saltwater.


    Here is a picture from a couple years ago that show them.


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    ATI's are nice but extremely out of my price range!!


    I'd like to light the tank in about the $150 range and think I want to stay away from LED's right now.


    I don't like the looks of shop lights so I was hoping someone had a fixture they liked that was reasonable. Something maybe designed for hydroponics. I do want good spread but again it's 48x18x18.
     
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    Yeah this is how the pro's do it that don't buy all the ada equipment. horticulture t5's 4 bulbs or 8 bulbs, hung from ceiling or conduit. The spread is great from what I see. My next spenditure after co2 regulator. I know 3 people that do it this way and they're all great growers. but then again, this is higher tech then you want...
     
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    Any brands or sites that I could check out for these fixtures?
     
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    Thanks so much!! If I went with the 4ft 4-bulb fixture, what do people usually use for bulb combinations?


    Also I'm assuming I'd have to hang this well above the tank if it's 4x54w.


    Kev
     
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    I use combinations of the following in my 8 bulb units


    Giesemann PowerChrome Aqua Flora T5 Lamps


    Giesemann PowerChrome Midday T5 Lamps


    ATI Blue Plus + T5 HO Aquarium Lamps


    ATI Purple Plus T5 HO Aquarium Lamps


    GE Starcoat 6,500K and 10k T5 High Output HO Aquarium Bulbs


    UVL Reds
     
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    Hmm. So for 4 bulbs should I do a 10k, 6,500k, and aqua flora and what should I do for a color spectrum? Probably won't have too many red plants, if any it would prolly be alt mini. Also I'll have some Cardinal tetras and some sort of colorful apisto.
     
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    The bulbs you listed have decent spectrums. I would just double up on the aquaflora or buy a couple others and see what you like to your eye.
     
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    Perfect UDgags! Been a great help. I appreciate it!
     
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    Think the 4ft 4-lamp HO fluorescent grow light fixture would work well? Price isn't bad and I can change the 6,500k bulbs out when I get some cash. Not horrible looking either. May be able to spray paint it black.
     
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    Or I see they have a t5 vho fixture as well.
     
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    The 48" Planted+ is supposed to have PAR readings somewhere in between the Ray and Ray2, probably closer to the Ray, according to the guys at Finnex. Apparently the new red LEDs they used in the Planted+ model are just outside the range that a standard PAR meter will pick up, so actual PAR will be higher than measured by a bit. Best guess for a Planted+ is 50-55 PAR at 18 inches for a 48".
     
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