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Jason's Colourful Merklap Aquarium..


I'm starting a new scape, new high tech tank.. the other tank will stay as the lower tech Scape but this one will be a Dutch hybrid more of a Plant sampler aquarium (merklap) instead of following the very strict Dutch rules.


I have everything ready to setup except for the Co2 Regulator.


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Ok the stand looks tidy but its not to cabinet makers standards, please note this is a open style stand as it's in the garage and it's not for display gallery purposes, the idea here is that the plywood you see on top is the exact tank size 120cmH x 60cmD x 45cmH. The gaps at ends are for the pipework, wires etc..


I designed it this way so that it's all open for easy access, making it easier for maintanence etc.


Underneath is a big space in the center that can and maybe used for a smaller tank? Shrimp tank? We will see :)


Filtration will be 2x Eheim professional 4 600 filters with Eheim stock media


Lighting will be my ati sunpower dimmable 6x54w t5s, I got a smaller led light for the low tech as this is wasted on the lowtech setup.


Original i was going to use my ADA AS substrate but it's been weeks of mud.. so i decided on using some 1-3mm black gravel


No hardscape just plants..


For Co2 I'm going to use 2x sera 1000 reactors one for each filter, twin output co2 regulator but still need to buy this when i have more funds.


l also moved my auto doser to this setup for a automated ei fertilizer setup.


As for plants i have a list but I'll keep that for a later post once I'm Setup.


As for Livestock I'm not even sure I'll be stocking it but if i do it will be entirely a clean up crew, Amano shrimp, bristle nose plecs etc. We will see.


The tank, filters and dosing pumps and lights and temp heater are in place, the tank background has been painted black


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over the next few days I'll be able to get the substrate added etc. Then run the tank for a few weeks until i can afford the new regulator.


Thanks for reading
 
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The dosing pump has four pumps my plan is to have them setup as follows based on a 333 litre tank, 1000ml of liquid mixes and 15ml doses

  • Macros on Monday, Wednesday and Friday
  • Micros on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday
  • Sunday will be 50-60% water change and no ferts.



Pump 1


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Pump 2


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Pump 3


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Pump 4 unused for now..
 

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And for fablau reference i also use air stones (Eheim Adjustable Air Stones) at night as soon as the lights go off and then i turn the air stones off ten mins before co2 comes back on in the morning.
 
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Thats dope Jason. That glass looks really thick. I love it, especially how you have a double spray bar and their positions. You might have gotten a really bad batch of aqua soil. I believe so.
 

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Nice setup.


I need to get a auto doser too. Will be traveling a lot more this year so that will help. what model is that?
 

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Great tank, perfect tank size Jason. Looking forward to see it "growing" :)


As for aeration during night, what time your Co2 starts in the morning? Is your tank open, right? And do you have a wet/filter if I recall correctly, right? If so you just have top-notch degassing... am I assuming correctly?
 

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Dennis Singh said:
Thats dope Jason. That glass looks really thick. I love it, especially how you have a double spray bar and their positions. You might have gotten a really bad batch of aqua soil. I believe so.

Thanks Dennis yes it's 12mm glass, think this is standard for a rimless tank of this size.
 

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rajkm said:
Nice setup.
I need to get a auto doser too. Will be traveling a lot more this year so that will help. what model is that?

Thanks Raj


That's the reason i use a auto doser as I'm away from home sometimes for long weekends and/or a week or so.


The model is a Kamoer Dosing Pump KSP-F04A - 4 Channel "Master"


I think this is now an older model as I've had it for a few years and there newer models include WiFi? Maybe there's a use for the WiFi feature? Probably for reefers?
 

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DutchMuch said:
ooooh :rolleyes: agree, wish I could get an auto doser but for the time being, manual it is...

If its because of funds then eBay worked for me.. this was second hand and my bid won at 80ish.. cost new is about £260UK, if i had to pay the new price i probably would not have one to be honest. I'm not that rich :) but the reef guys like spending money.
 

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fablau said:
Great tank, perfect tank size Jason. Looking forward to see it "growing" :)

As for aeration during night, what time your Co2 starts in the morning? Is your tank open, right? And do you have a wet/filter if I recall correctly, right? If so you just have top-notch degassing... am I assuming correctly?

Thanks Fab :) yes same size as my lowtech only difference is this is cannister and the lowtech is sump/diy wet dry.


Based on the old high tech.. this one will run the same.


08.00 Co2 on


08.50 Auto dose ferts


09.00 lights on (1.2 pH drop)


16.00 Co2 off


17.00 Lights off


17.10 air pump on till co2 on at 08.00
 

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1-3mm gravel now in place and my cut up plastic bag flow test :)


i also added eheim adjustable air stones to show you in the image.


Normally i hide the air stone behind plants etc so they are not visible and or take them out for photos etc.


The water level is lower than normal but I'll be doing a few extra larger water changes before the tank is ready.


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Just co2 equipment to add now then it's all go :)
 
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Thank you so much Jason for the provided info! That's a great reference for me, I will try aeration during night and see if that'll make any difference.


Your flow looks perfect (rotation clockwise, right?), and thank you for showing where your air stones are placed.


I see that you ended up using just gravel. Is that just inert gravel or with some CEC characteristics?
 

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Jason, about using air stones at night or anyway when Co2 is off, have you ever tested with and without them, to see if actually there is any actual and tangible any difference in growth or better growth? Just curious, I know that for sure can be beneficial for bacteria and livestock, but I am just wondering if you have seen any actually benefit plant-wise.


Thanks ;)
 

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Nice start.... Tanks have a lot of room for plants...


I keep lot of tanks, and try to keep it all simply setup , just a filter and co2 24 hours..


I am waing for your dosage, experiment on traces.. :)
 

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fablau said:
Thank you so much Jason for the provided info! That's a great reference for me, I will try aeration during night and see if that'll make any difference.

Your flow looks perfect (rotation clockwise, right?), and thank you for showing where your air stones are placed.


I see that you ended up using just gravel. Is that just inert gravel or with some CEC characteristics?

Gravel is 100% natural and inert, with no changing properties.


Tomorrow's i will do a pH test currently using 100% tap water and the inert gravel.
 
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Jason said:
If its because of funds then eBay worked for me.. this was second hand and my bid won at 80ish.. cost new is about £260UK, if i had to pay the new price i probably would not have one to be honest. I'm not that rich :) but the reef guys like spending money.

oh I didn't even think about that, will definitely have to look into that.


Thanks


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fablau said:
Jason, about using air stones at night or anyway when Co2 is off, have you ever tested with and without them, to see if actually there is any actual and tangible any difference in growth or better growth? Just curious, I know that for sure can be beneficial for bacteria and livestock, but I am just wondering if you have seen any actually benefit plant-wise.

Thanks ;)

Fab no I've never tested with or without in the same sump based tank.. I've had tanks without but can't say i have looked into seriously enough to confirm its a good thing.


Plants use oxygen 24/7 but during co2 injection i believe they don't get as much? Correct me if I'm wrong :)


For this reason i believe giving them extra when Co2 is off can't hurt.


A few non plant related reasons..


livestock must appreciate it.


My main reasons​ to use them on this cannister based tank is the guys with lily pipes raise there pipes at night so I just use automated airstones instead of that nightly task to break the water surface.


On the sump tank with overflows i never got surface scum but with cannister filter tanks i did and using air stones helped remove this and also the tanks seemed to have better clarity when I used air stones.
 

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nicpapa said:
Nice start.... Tanks have a lot of room for plants...
I keep lot of tanks, and try to keep it all simply setup , just a filter and co2 24 hours..


I am waing for your dosage, experiment on traces.. :)

Thanks nic , I'll keep you updated here on the progress as and if i change things.


Co2 24 hours? Do you use any form of o2 at night or is everything constant?
 

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Jason said:
Fab no I've never tested with or without in the same sump based tank.. I've had tanks without but can't say i have looked into seriously enough to confirm its a good thing.


Plants use oxygen 24/7 but during co2 injection i believe they don't get as much? Correct me if I'm wrong :)


For this reason i believe giving them extra when Co2 is off can't hurt.


A few non plant related reasons..


livestock must appreciate it.


My main reasons​ to use them on this cannister based tank is the guys with lily pipes raise there pipes at night so I just use automated airstones instead of that nightly task to break the water surface.


On the sump tank with overflows i never got surface scum but with cannister filter tanks i did and using air stones helped remove this and also the tanks seemed to have better clarity when I used air stones.

Thanks Jason. Well, I think plants ue more O2 at night than during the day (respiratiin during night, photosynthesis during the day), therefore by giving them O2 should be beneficial indeed. I always wondered if that actually can improve growth in a measurable way... As soon as my tank situation is stabilized, I will try and measure! Thanks ;)