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ICH treatment advice.

Discussion in 'Are you new to aquatic plants? Start here' started by GKFISH, Nov 23, 2010.

  1. GKFISH

    GKFISH Junior Poster

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    Hello Everyone, it seems that I introduced fish into my planted tank that carried ICH. Ive done some research and refuse to introduce the poisons currently on the market, I have slowly raised my water temp to 85 degrees Fahrenheit and want to dose with table salt at a rate of 1 tablespoon per 10 gallons, however I'm worried about what the salt will do to my plants. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you,Greg
     
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    Quarantine, Sterilize, Sanitize...

    Hi Greg,

    A little bit of salt is unlikely to harm your plants. ;)

    The heat will do the trick. :cool::cool::cool:

    Make sure of sufficient oxygen, air pump if necessary.

    Need I say quarantine, sterilize, sanitize... :gw

    Biollante
     
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  3. GKFISH

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    So 1 tbl spoon per 10 gallons is ok?
    Basically what you're saying is "use a quarintine tank before introducing new critters."

    Thanks, Greg
     
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    Quarantine Need Not Be Complicated OR Expensive

    Hi Greg,

    Assuming it is not brackish water a small amount of salt is not going to make much difference. ;) I am not sure how much help the salt really is at these levels. I think the heat will speed up the life cycle and rid you of the Ich in short order.

    Remember to aerate...:gw

    To be on the safe side dissolve the salt in aquarium water first and stir it into the tank. :)

    Yes always, always quarantine...or sterilize... or sanitize anything going into your tank, this is a cheap lesson... :gw

    Biollante
     
  5. Htomassini

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    I once got an ich issue in my tank with clown loaches (no salt) so I reAd up and used kordon ich attack. All natural but slow but it worked. I even saved my Shrimp.
     
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    The heat method alone is good if one has fish that will tolerate the heat for the often recommended two week duration.I personally use Formalin at half dose, takes a bit longer but have not seen adverse reaction from plant's and or fish.
    Does require checking water to ensure biological filter has not ,or is not being compromised, but with plenty of plant's perhaps less of a reason for concern depending on fish load.
     
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    Good To Know!

    Hi,

    Glad to hear that Kordon Ich-Attack is effective. :)

    Just curious, does anyone know what the “5% active ingredients consisting of five natural organic herbals” are?

    And how they can be “based on their containing patented naphthoquinones” that is (are?), I assume, derived from moth ball stuff (Naphthalene). :confused:

    While I am glad it works, I guess I would like to know what is being added to the tank.:)

    Biollante
     
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  8. GKFISH

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    I have started treating with Kordon, from what Ive read online there werent many adverse reactions to fish,shrimp or plants. I will certainly post the results.
    Biollante, can you direct me to a post, blog or article on setting up and maintaining a quarantine tank.

    Thanks Greg
     
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    Just an up date on my ICH problem; Ive been dosing Kordon ICH ATTACK since 11/26 at recommended dosage which is 1 tsp. per 10 gallons. All signs of the parasite are completely gone as of 12/3. I am still dosing just to be sure, will probably finish the bottle which will be about 5 more days. All water parameters have remained consistent during treatment. The only difference I see is a brownish tint to the water immediately after dosing, but it eventually clears. The ICH Attack smells a lot like garlic and hasn't effected fish or plants negatively thus far.

    Many thanks to you Htomassini and everyone else for your help and interest!!

    Greg
     
  10. Matt F.

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    Doesn't work even at 2-3x dosage in tanks w/ aquasoil as a substrate (this may be a coincidence). My guess it that the high CEC of aquasoil absorbs/binds the medicine rendering it useless.

    I tried:

    Ich-Attack/rid fungus
    No-Ich (shrimp/reef safe--uses anti-protazoan meds)
    Rid-Ich+

    I finally tore down my 55 gallon and quarantined my 50+ tetras in a bare bottom 20 Long w/ maracide.

    The Ich Attack fouled up my filtration system, too. Nasty brown build up.

    I wrote a multiple page journal on my experiences with these plant/shrimp safe ich meds at the sfbaaps site.

    fwiw, maracide is plant safe.

    I know of someone who stopped an outbreak by raising them temps to 90*F. it worked.
     
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    Hi,

    I have had good experiences with the Maracide/Maracyn product line. Have not harmed any plants or bio-bed (to my knowledge) and has helped with the ick as well.

    Dose as on bottle and remove any activated carbon or it will scarf it right up.

    I usually treat for about 5-7 days. Then some large water changes and are good to go.

    Try and keep them eating if possible as it will help. Live foods at this time may be appreciated.
     
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    Good advice. ;)
     
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    I've used tri-sulfa - very effective. No harm yo anything. It would be overkill for ich though. If you believe in resistant pathogens, I'd save it for when you need a big gun.

    Ich attack worked great for me in conjunction with raising temp to 80F. No harm or complications to filter or inhabitants.
     
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    I've usually just done some massive water changes whenever I see a couple of white dots. This, and cleaning the filter seems to do the trick. Whether or not this is actually ich I can't say. My tanks tend to run in the low to mid eighties though so it may just be that flushing the tank a few times helps water quality and removes the ich down to less infectious levels as well as speeding up the lifecycle. Can't really say. Salt is not an option in my case, too many ottos in the tanks.

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