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Help with Dosing

Discussion in 'Advanced Strategies and Fertilization' started by JasonB, Aug 1, 2006.

  1. JasonB

    JasonB Junior Poster

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    Hi all,

    I'm fairly new and am working on my first planted tank. I just recieved some Potassium Nitrate and Potassium Phosphate from Greg Watson's and I'm wondering if I'm using this stuff correctly.

    I'm trying to figure out if I can add this stuff directly to my tank and what's the difference in adding it direct or mixing it with some tap water ahead of time.

    Yesterday I put 3/4 tspn of Potassium Nitrate and 1/8 tspn of Potassium Phosphate in my tank (directly). Today I put in 15 ml trace and 10 ml Iron and now my water is cloudy (where as before today it was crystal clear). I have a 77 Gallon tank, lots of plants with pressurized CO2 injection going on. Running 300 watts @ 6700k.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks!

    J
     
  2. Tom Barr

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    Re: Help with Dosing

    The Fe will cause the cloudiness. You likely have harder water.
    I'd try TMG it works well in both hard/soft water.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     
  3. VaughnH

    VaughnH Lifetime Charter Member
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    Doesn't the cloudiness clear up pretty quickly? My CSM+B+Fe does cloud the water locally (were I dump the dose) but within a few minutes it clears up. My water isn't very hard though.
     
  4. JasonB

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    Re: Help with Dosing

    Ok, I found out what TMG is (Tropica Master Grow). Anyone know where I can buy this stuff? I live in Calgary, AB, Canada.

    Also, what would be the dosing of this stuff? Does it replace my Iron AND Trace?

    My cloudiness is pretty much tank wide and has been like it for several hours now.

    Thanks!

    J.
     
  5. VaughnH

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    Big Al's used to carry it, but I don't see it on their website any longer. It has been renamed by Tropica to something else (?), which you can get from the Tropica website. Then, with the new name a google search might find a Canadian dealer.
     
  6. Tom Barr

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    15mls is all that's added for TMG, if you added the CMS and also added Fe along with, there's your issue, the Fe should not be added along with the CMS, CMS already has a lot Fe in it.

    Big Al's on line carries it.


    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     
  7. JasonB

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    Sorry for my ignorance but what's CMS? Better yet, is there an ancronym thread somewhere so I don't have to keep asking :)

    Thanks for all your help. I have ordered some TMG from Big Al's Online.

    J.
     
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  9. JasonB

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    Ahhh. Thanks. I was actually using Seachem Trace (not Flourish) and Seachem Iron. But I've ordered the TMG stuff now. Does this TMG have Iron in it? Will I still have to dose iron?

    Thanks for your help,

    J.
     
  10. JasonB

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    Big Al's just emailed me and said that Tropica Master Grow has been discontinued but they have Tropica Plant Nutrition. Is this the same basic stuff and should I order that instead of TMG?

    Thanks

    J.
     
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    Same stuff, new name. Tropica just added a complete line of plant ferts, so they renamed TMG to be consistent with the other fert names.
     
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    TMG has Iron. If you observe deficiency you just need to increase the TMG dose, or you could supplement TMG with a less expensive trace mix (like CSM+B) if so inclined.
     
  13. DaveMill

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    A clarification: Flourish Trace is not what we around here call "trace elements". The Seachem product to use for trace elements is "Flourish."
     
  14. JasonB

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    Happily (I hope) the TMG is what one would consider trace because that's what I've gone and ordered. I'm expecting it to arrive tomorrow.

    Thanks!

    J.
     
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