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geektom's sanity tank

Discussion in 'Journals' started by geektom, Jul 16, 2017.

  1. DutchMuch

    DutchMuch Junior Poster

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    Ammania sp. 'bonsai' or the actual rotalala indica would be nice. Both have different leaf patterns however
     
  2. burr740

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    The so-called Ammania sp bonsai is the real Rotala indica, aka True Rotala indica.

    This plant

    [​IMG]

    "A. bonsai" is not the correct name.
     
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  3. DutchMuch

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    ????????????????
    sean sold it to me as ammania sp. Bonsai? ive been mislabeling this entire time....
    ?????
     
  4. DutchMuch

    DutchMuch Junior Poster

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    im so confused now @burr

    True rotala indica:
    [​IMG]

    Ammania Sp. Bonsai:

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    So what is it I have in my emersed journal? which 1 of the 2?
     
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  5. burr740

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    Same plant in two different environments.

    Lots of folks calling it bonsai, experienced sellers and even some websites. I was mislabeling it too until Cavan set me straight a while back.

    Its not a problem if a person is buying A bonsai, they'll get the right plant just the wrong name for it. The problem is when you buy "Rotala indica" from somebody and you get the rotundifolia looking thing instead of the true variety. (sounds like what geektom did)
     
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  6. DutchMuch

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    Oh... So Ammania bonsai and True Indica, or the same thing if im understanding correctly? its just the Rotundfolia that is different from those 2?
     
  7. geektom

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    So, will A. bonsai grow in my set up? Can it get "bushier" looking by planting the stems closer together?

    Any other suggestions for a bright green, non "needle" leaf stem for that middle section?


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  8. DutchMuch

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    Yes, and yes.

    As for a suggestion, maybe... well idk really right now.. if I have 1 that pops in my head ill tell you.
     
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  9. geektom

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    Thanks! I want 3 distinct styles for the back of I can manage it.

    So far the green myrio has been a good substitute for the Pogostemon erectus, which I can't seem to find anywhere. Not quite the same color, but looks nice.


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  10. geektom

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    The myrio has grown about 1" in 6 days

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    The AR has doubled in size and getting more red every day

    [​IMG]


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  11. geektom

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    Also, in the myrio picture you can see that my cryptocoryne has *completely* melted- hoping for a quick bounce back.


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  12. DutchMuch

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    They are commonly grown emersed, im sure it'll come back. in my NPT I planted crypts about... 1/2 month ago, now they are just getting first new growth after melting, so don't dig em up.
     
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  13. geektom

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    I had a huge colony in my last tank that was established for over 6 years- I forgot how radical the melt can be!


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    Day 9 update:

    Myrio continues to grow- a couple of inches more and I will do the first trim, so I can create a compact bush. Rotala is continuing to transform- not quite sure what to do with it, so I am going to just let it grow for now. Tiny new leaves are sprouting from the crypt melt, so that is a pretty fast recovery if it keeps going. Nice new leaf already on the anubias.

    Everything is growing in one way or the other except for the Ludwigia arcuata. I am wondering if it might make sense to pull out the branch until the arcuata is more established, just to make sure it is getting enough light?

    Water parameters:

    pH: 6.8 at peak lights, 7.5 in the morning
    Ammonia, Nitrites and Nitrate all still at 0 ppm
    GH 8
    KH 3

    Dosing macros M/W/F, trace (CSM+B) T/Th/S

    I used Dr. Tim's Nitrifying Bacteria, but still suspicious that ammonia and nitrites are at 0 after 9 days. I added some fish food on day 5 and 7, plus I had the crypt melt, so I don't know... maybe I will add some nerites and see what happens.

    Some small traces of brown/diatoms, but no major bloom.

    Reminder- my substrate is organic potting soil, covered by flourite, capped by the tiny gravel/sand you can see.

    Comments, critiques, suggestions all welcome!

    FTS- you can see how much the myrio has sprouted
    [​IMG]

    AR and repens is still doing well, hopefully the AR will continue to redden
    [​IMG]

    Myrio
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    Rotala, doing its thing
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    Ludwigia arcuata, not doing much of anything
    [​IMG]

    Baby crypts
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    Algae/diatoms
    [​IMG]


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  15. DutchMuch

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    I find that ludwigia arcuata takes its time, sometimes.
    By now however I think yours should have of began to take off? hm.
    Nice carpet btw! I have had S. Repens for 1 year now, and it has only grown 1/2"!!!!! I kid you not! but its still alive. Idk why it wont grow.
     
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  16. DutchMuch

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    [​IMG]
    Where your anubias is, in front of that, (idk if S repens can get tall like that) it needs some height, to make it look like its raising up to the anubias, to cover the rhizome and just make it less bare. So far though it looks pretty good, when the AR gets taller, I would say let it (minimum) grow maybe to half the height of the rock. When the rotala comes up over the rock, let it go, don't trim it unless it starts to invade other plants. It will give the "wild" look to the tank, and everyone has that one plant in every tank. So just let it do its thing. ludwigia arcuata, idk why it hastn taken off... hm. Sometimes it takes time and patience!
     
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  17. geektom

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    Noticed some more algae/diatoms on the tips of the branches.

    [​IMG]


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  18. geektom

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    Hey all! Quick update- pictures to follow later.

    I did my water change on Sunday, trimmed a couple of stems of the myrio (which seems to grow an inch a day) and rearranged the arcuata to get a little more light.

    I also picked up a few stems of pogostemon stellatus, which I know *also* needs intense light, but I really like the way it looked and could totally see it growing up through the branch I have in the tank.

    Rotala continues to show it is NOT indica, lol...
     
  19. geektom

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    You can see how the myrio continues to outgrow everything, and where I added the stellatus in the back corner.

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    Crypts coming back
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    Better view of the stellatus- I really hope it works here, I love the way it looks.
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    The insane rotala. Perhaps dosing with LSD was a mistake?
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    AR doing well- probably would look better if there was more contrast with the color of the rocks.
    [​IMG]

    Hello! Added a few Amano yesterday- impatient, I know...
    [​IMG]


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  20. bshenanagins

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    Your right the rocks are not doing the AR justice at all, however they look good. Your star repens looks awesome, is just caution you when it comes to trimming. Not sure if anyone else has experienced this but I've had mine melt after a trim and never come back. Not sure if I snipped too low or I was lacking nutrients but prior to the trim they were flourishing, bright green and pearling. Just a heads up in case you haven't trimmed yet.
     
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