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False claims by businesses selling you products

Discussion in 'General Plant Topics' started by Tom Barr, Jan 4, 2007.

  1. Tom Barr

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    FTC fines weight loss pill firms $25M - Yahoo! News

    While this is for human health products, it also shows such homepathic product that also have edged into the aquarium trade are also very similar.
    But when these companies make these claim, do not assume they are all on the up and up.

    Nearly every field and hobby has a similar issue with various products.
    "Hydrilla pills" are an excellent example.

    Health benefits aquatic green foods have been revered as nutritional SuperFoods

    It's when these larger comapnies and lots of $ are being made at the expense of consumers does the FTC step in and investigate such claims.

    Some common sense goes a long way.

    Penac is another such company:

    The Plocher™-Technology: Proven Know How

    Transfer of energy and oxygenation of water is right in that alley.
    Review here and read how they word things in the Penac sales pitch vs what is stated in the Psuedoscience in the market place section:

    Structured Water Pseudoscience and Quackery

    And

    How the AquaKat works

    Home Drinking Water Treatments | Water Filter Products Compared

    All for 800$ huh?

    I rag on such companies that take advanatge of folks, the hobby is better off with fewer such things and more testing stuff, rather than give me your money for this snake oil that cures darn near everything.

    I really hope more will question things, test and waste less time defending products that appeal to your sense of fair play, or what "science does not know", especially when asking for your $$$ based on faith, rather than any real support.

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    Tom Barr
     
  2. aquabillpers

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    BGA is widely sold as a supplement in Canada. Much of it is harvested in Upper Klamath Lake, in Oregon. It is touted as curing many ills, including HIV, with only minor negative side effects, such as flatulence.
    Natural Life Magazine #68 - Blue Green Algae – Superfood or Pond Scum?

    Maybe there is a use for that stuff after all!

    (I'd better add that BGA can also be contaminated with harmful microcystins, so one planning to use it should cleanse the BGA of that stuff first :) )

    Bill
     
  3. Tom Barr

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    Money wort (Bacopa monneri)is now a muscle building supplement, fat burner.........

    I just hoopwe that folks are curious and all, but not enough to pay for it:rolleyes:

    "Well you do not know unless you try it and see"

    That's the classic ploy...........

    But if it does not make sense and the person is selling it, or cannot account for other alternative issues related to the claim, do not believe them.

    This is about BSing folks to get their money, not because it is something so wonderful and "a miracle of science and research".

    Such advances are well studied and supported.
    "Cold fusion" was a hastily suggested miracle as well..but we all know how that went............same with Echinacia curing the colds etc, a study came out and profoundly crushed such speculation.

    I see all sorts of water aquaschisters trying to parlay their snake oils on line and in the market place.

    If they ask for your $ and claim it's a silver bullet, you know something is up.
    Quite a few aquarium and plant related products make such claims.

    I've been threaten with lawsuits for such critical comments as to the truthfulness, but it will not be the first lawsuit involving libel claims from a company that I've dealt with either:D I hope they are good representing themselves pro se and are not incorporated, it'll cost them a lot of $ to go after me and I do not shut up.

    I'm certainly not out top get a company in anyway, but when they lie and make false claims they cannot support, it's not fair to the consumer nor me. I ask questions and if they want support, they need to be honest and answer the questions.


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  4. reiverix

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    I loved the Computer-clustered water. That was a hoot and I really needed a good laugh. A pity some people might actually take it seriously.

    It does this by simply searching the environment for 30 feet surrounding the CPU to identify a coherent harmonic linear resonance pattern consistent with your typed prayer/intent

    As a programmer/analyst I would love to get hold of the source code for that software.
     
  5. Tom Barr

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    Well, you might be in business yourself with funny software and nice grpahics and sneaky writing.

    I'm crotchety today because of such false claims.
    Both in the the market place and in the hobby.

    I'm far from perfect, but at least I try to be honest.

    Amano when I asked him what was in powersand told me "Power".
    Funny, but certainly not honest.
    Dupla never gave me any response to several questions about a decade ago.

    SeaChem is good, they protect their stuff, but they are still honest about that and straight forward.

    That type of help in the market is "the" model.
    Same with Tropica.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     
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