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Eye of the Shrimptigers

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Kyalgae, Dec 12, 2016.

  1. Christophe

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    That would add a lot more PO4 than K, hold off on that. If you were to add anything K2SO4 would be a nice add. I think it's more a matter of new tank shock to the plants, combined with high ammonia/nitrite levels. Water changes more than anything will help.
     
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    I will never forget the original design of your tank. It was truly unique, and completely successful aquascape.
    Seriously it was just so pretty.
     
  3. Kyalgae

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    I'm glad you liked that one, the issue with that tank was that I had probably over 200 planaria in it, they were killing my fish and shrimp. When I killed off the planaria I killed at least 200 MTS. The organic load just overwhelmed my tank, and the algae went crazy.
     
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    I did dose some monopotassium phosphate today, but I am about to do a 90% water change. When you mentioned potassium, I just went ahead and dosed it, I was in a hurry at the time. Things don't look any worse.
     
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    Great read! I really like this type of tank. I tried shrimp. My rams tried them too. I think I have a couple left. Someday


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  6. Kyalgae

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    Shrimp are fun to watch, a little 10 or 20 gallon, some mosses and wood, a filter of some kind and you're good to go. I use RO water and a KH/GH booster from Salty Shrimp I could leave the tank for 6 months, just topping off water and they would be just fine. Feed them food if you want to see lots of breeding.
     
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    I have just the spot for a 20. I just need to convince my wife


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    DAY 12

    I did a 90% water change last night, then I followed that one up with another 50% change this morning, I did add some GH booster, along with both of the changes. Fingers crossed.
     
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    DAY 13

    I'm going to do another 90% water change. My other plants look better, but my myriophyllum is slowly dying from the bottom up still. What should I do? Should I cut off the green parts and replant them? Or leave it be? Anyone have experience?

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  10. DutchMuch

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    one of my rotala nanjenshen stems did this, I just shoved the whole thing down further into the substrate and its fine now.
    I think for future reference you should split your TC's up more.
     
  11. Kyalgae

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    Day 17

    The Good:

    - Cryptocoryne crispatula has grown a couple inches
    - Monte Carlo is sending out runners
    - Staurogyne seems to be growing the best
    - Really isn't anything algae-wise
    - I've done 2 90% water changes in the past 4 days.

    The Bad (sad)
    - Myriophyllum is all but gone, 95% rotted away, so I snipped the tips off and replanted (Live damn you! Live!)

    The Ugly
    - My plant mass is low I think, since I lost what was supposed to be my fastest growing plant
    - There is a little bit of stringy brown (diatoms?algae?) that attaches to dead leaves

    I added a little KH2PO4 (1/64 tsp) 1.3ppm, I brought in another light, ~100 par just in hopes of the Myriophyllum making it, bumped the CO2 up a bit, I have the second light on for 7 hours (I'm getting desperate). Here are some pictures taken in the daytime, they don't look as good as at night, but I wanted to give a little update. I also turned on the vortec powerhead on low. Th plants just really bubble more with the second light on. I know I'm risking algae, but I also don't want to lose a plant, and I see tiny bubbles forming on the Myriophyllum with this second light on.

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    may look a bit sad now,
    but image it half a year down the road :)
     
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    It's been 17 days now and I have used up most of my 10lb cylinder of CO2. I notice a lot ends up burping out of that abomination I call a reactor. I can drop the pH but I am running out of co2 after only 3 weeks. So that means my reactor is garbage really. I switched to the inline atomic diffuser for a few days and I just haven't seen much growth on the plants. I was looking back at @edelry.junior 's journal to get an idea of what he was using for the CO2 reactor, as we have similar size tanks, so I have a ITSA turbo reactor coming. I'm losing sleep over CO2. I don't think a cylinder change every three weeks is normal.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    Unless your putting in like 50bps you have a leak.
    In my 65 I haven't had to change the co2 and its like 20bps for about 8 hours a day/night.
    Connected to a diffuser.
    And ive had that canister since... I started the 65 its been filled. Havent had to change it yet. Its also connected to my fluval, 2 block manifold.
     
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    DAY 32

    Here's a little picture before maintenance:

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    6 days was my last water change, too long in my opinion, but unfortunately couldn't help it. I added 10 cherry shrimp, and nearly gassed them I think, the something caused them to tumble around through the water, and stay stuck to the filter sponge on the powerhead for most of the day. I turned the CO2 down, and they went back to normal the net day, but I have been slowly increasing it again. I switched out my reactor and put an ISTA turbo CO2 reactor in place. I don't know if it's any better really, I will say that my tank degasses faster. Monday I dosed full EI, potassium nitrate and monopotassium phosphate. I did this because the plants really weren't doing much, the Hygrophila seems to have responded well and the staurogyne is growing a bit better, it was getting a whole bunch of holes in it before the EI dose, new leaves look healthier I think.

    Here are some pre-maintenance shots.

    Lovely Cyanobacteria
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    Hygrophila coming back!
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    The Cryptocoryne crispatula seems to be trucking along.
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    The unidentified pond weed @snarkingturtle do you know what this is?
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    Full tank shot after maintenance, kind of meh, but things are growing, not as fast as I'd like. There's a huge hole where the myriophyllum was supposed to be...I am going to put some Rotala bonsai in there soon. All the bubbles are from the hydrogen peroxide I used to hopefully kill off a bit of the cyanobacteria I couldn't manually remove.
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    It looks like Chara which is actually a macro algae. There's a bunch of species and I'm not sure which yours is. Most like alkaline conditions. I'm curious to see how it does!
     
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    10 pounds in three weeks sounds like a lot. I have disassembled my 60 liters and switched to a bigger tank, with 140 liters. My CO2 setup though, is basically the same, I just switched to a thicker hose diameter (from 12/16 to 16/22).
    This is the stuff I am using, right after my EHEIM 2075:
    1. JBL Inline atomizer
    2. Sera 1000 Reactor
    Dissolution rate is at 99% to 100%. It really works, and it works very fast. 2kg of CO2 (roughly 8 pounds I guess) last a bit more than a month, something like 40 days.

    I am still taking a beating from this new tank. After 2 months things are still very far from what I had with my 60 liters tank. I am glad I decided to buy this shitty tank (10€) and try things out before moving to the bigger one. Going through all the mistakes I made with a 300 liter tank is definitely not fun.

    This is the current state (please forgive the phone picture and the terrible state of the glass):
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    Thanks @edelry.junior I actually just hooked up a Sera 1000. I have an atomizer as well, but for now I have it with the CO2 line hooked directly into the tank. I did a much needed maintenance today. My KH has to be near or below 1 degree. They new waters pH was 6.75 before the filter mixed it around, and my pH is read 5.53 right now with the CO2 going. I will say that I still have a bit more left in my cylinder, so I haven't run out just yet. My growth is slow though. haven't really pinned it down yet, so I have been apprehensive about trimming my plants more aggressively. I don't really have my dosing schedule nailed down either. After my change I dosed 13.77 ppm of nitrates and 1.31 ppm of phosphorus. (KNO3 and KH2PO4 respectively) A little stumped.

    I have to say the plants look happy at least, they are growing.
     
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    Here are some pre-maintenance shots, a lot of the older growth is covered in this paste-like algae, no staghorn or BBA thank goodness, the odd bit of hair algae but usually only on a dying stem. I have a jug of flourish trace, but with all this talk of custom micro mixes i feel like I'm doing something wrong using the stuff :p I did buy a bottle of Aquavitro Propel, which is just iron though. I don't really know how many days I should be dosing that though, and what target ppm? 0.2, 0.07? less? I noticed before I started dosing KNO3 the staurogyne was showing yellowish parts on older leaves, and it might be nitrogen deficiency. Going forward I am making sure I write down everything I add, and the times I add it.

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