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ErioType3,Mini milfoil,R.mini butterfly,Hydrothrix garderni,Ludwigia "red", Starou

Discussion in 'Trades, swaps, sales' started by Tom Barr, Aug 16, 2014.

  1. Tom Barr

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    Erio type 3.... 6 nice tops 60$ shipped
    Mini milfoil, very nice smaller plant, dense bunches, roughly a good sized bunch, 30$ shipped
    R. mini butterfly, nice size buch, 30$ shipped
    Hydrothrix garderini nice size bunch, 6-10 stems? 40$ shipped
    Larger nice Ludwigia pantanal "red", roughly 8-10" long stems x 6 40$ shipped
    Ludwigia "red" 20 or so, 25$ shipped
    Starougyne repens, 20 plants for 25$ shipped, 40 plants for 40$ shipped
    Large Erio compressum 15$ each, shipping NOT included.

    Discounts for combined items.

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    #1 Tom Barr, Aug 16, 2014
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    Not to muddy your post or anything, but your R. mini butterfly is actually Rotala Macrandra 'Narrow Leaf' (or 'Magenta' name is interchangeable i believe), I purchased some the last time you offered some, and its completely different from my actual rotala mini butterfly. Still a very nice and red plant.
     
    #2 mythin, Aug 19, 2014
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    This same plant came from AFA and was labeled as mini butterfly.
    It looks like the pics that label it as such.

    Mine grows differently and had some of the green and red mix that's typical on the mini butterfly, but the leaves get longer.
    I do not think we really know what it is.

    It's not R. macrandra though.
     
    #3 Tom Barr, Aug 19, 2014
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    Ah ok, that makes more sense now. But one thing is clear at least to me is that AFA has it mis-labeled. I have never owned rotala macrandra 'narrow leaf' so I was only comparing it against photos, which it looks like some photos, but not so much others.

    So now what I wonder is what species you actually have, interesting...

    This is what I consider true 'mini butterfly', it has shorter rounder leaves (not pointed like yours), and its more of a maroonish red vs orangey red of yours.

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    Barr variety 'mini butterfly'
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    #4 mythin, Aug 19, 2014
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    either way I'll take the mini butterfly ;) Thanks! PM with address coming.
     
    #5 ShadowMac, Aug 19, 2014
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    Mythin, mine started out that way...then I ended up with this.


    Sort of like many of Buce's started out as mini this or that, only to grow nice and large under optimal conditions.
     
    #6 Tom Barr, Aug 22, 2014
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    Mythin, mine started out that way...then I ended up with this.


    Sort of like many of Buce's started out as mini this or that, only to grow nice and large under optimal conditions.
     
    #7 Tom Barr, Aug 22, 2014
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    They are 2 different species (or varieties) I have both in the same tank, and both are stable different varieties, they are not the same plant. Both are growing well, yours grows very elongated leaves that are pointed, the other variety grows shorter leaves that are rounded. They are not the same plant.

    I dont know why you are arguing this point, even you stated that what you have is different and you dont know what to call it. I believe what you have is Rotala Mini buttefly type V, and what I am talking about is Rotala mini butterfly type IV, but yours looks closer to Rotala Macrandra 'Narrow Leaf', in my tank your version is leaf tip to leaf tip ~2 inchs, so its not that mini of a plant compared to my other rotala mini butterfly type iv, which leaf tip to leaf tip is ~1inch.


    This may explain it a bit more, although i find both types to be perfectly stable.
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    Also seen here:
    http://www.nanoplants.de/plants/Rotala-Macrandra-Mini-Type-IV-Red.htm
    http://www.nanoplants.de/plants/Rotala-Macrandra-Butterfly-Mini-Type-V.htm

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    I'm stating that to the type I got looked just like your IV.
    But it ended up looking like V after awhile.

    There's no argument, this is just an observational fact.

    This has occurred not once, but 3x.
    If you think yours is a stable form, I'll buy some and we can see.
    I hope that it is...........I would like something different after all :)
     
    #9 Tom Barr, Aug 22, 2014
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    Next time please ask before using my picture.... no biggie just common courtesy :)
     
    #10 sjb2487, Aug 22, 2014
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    Sorry, I removed your picture, but i cant remove the attachment of your picture for some reason, I didnt think it would be a big deal if i used it, even with out asking. sorry...

    Also tom, they are yours for free once i propagate a few more stems.
     
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