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co2 and other carbon sources

Discussion in 'Advanced Strategies and Fertilization' started by baruch mor, May 3, 2005.

  1. baruch mor

    baruch mor Prolific Poster

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    there are a few co2/carbon products in the market. woulk to know if u guys try some of them , and what worked best for u. a few products i think of are:
    1. co2 tablets
    2. co2 powder
    3. diy yeast set-up
    4. using soda water
    5. products such flourish excel
    6. adding sugars and bicarbonats etc.
    7. carbo plus and other electric co2 products

    btw, what is the main ingrediants in the flourish excel like products?
     
    #1 baruch mor, May 3, 2005
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    >>there are a few co2/carbon products in the market. woulk
    >>to know if u guys try some of them ,

    I thought you would get a lot of replies to this one ...

    >>and what worked best for u.

    >>3. diy yeast set-up

    I pulled out #3 from your list. I personally like DIY CO2 for the cost ... it requires very little in initial setup costs and the on-going operating costs are low. Most of the products you've listed tend to have somewhat lower startup costs, but tend to be expensive on an ongoing basis ...

    So for smaller tanks ... I'd encourage anyone to try DIY CO2 ... I personally like a three bottle setup where you use three 2 Litre bottles ...

    For medium tanks you eventually reach a size where DIY CO2 becomes more difficult to supply and adequate amount of CO2. So while its really nice to make the jump to a pressurized CO2 system, I'd encourage someone making this leap to check out Tom's Venturi reactor design you might get just enough additional "Efficiency" from his reactor design to continue to get by with DIY CO2 ...

    For larger tanks you eventually reach a size where it just is far more practical to switch to pressurized CO2 as opposed to the growing army of 2 litre soldiers stationed below your tanks !!!

    Greg
     
    #2 Greg Watson, May 16, 2005
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    thanks greg, i guess all the member who payed 12$ for barrreport.com already has the presurized systems :)
     
    #3 baruch mor, May 17, 2005
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    That, and over the last 12 months, the prices have really seemed to drop quite a bit ... there are dozens of online aquatic plant stores selling pressurized CO2 setups ... the Milwaukee brand has really aggressively been priced to make it pretty affordable (no, I don't sell CO2 systems) ...

    I don't have any personal experience with their setup, but its been getting decent reviews ...

    Greg
     
    #4 Greg Watson, May 18, 2005
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    Baruch,

    I tried the tablets (Jungle Fizz Factory) and while they seemed to produce the co2 I needed, they seemed to also reek havoc with my general hardness numbers. I switched to DIY co2 and have been very happy with this in both my 10 and 37 gal tanks.

    Bill
     
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    I am using pressurized CO2 (Milwaukee) with a 10 lb tank. It is more money but I didn't want the mixing tasks of the DIY. Seemed cleaner and easier to me this way.

    Tom
     
    #6 tnnlynch, May 18, 2005
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    Why not? :)

    Ian
     
    #7 Ian H, May 19, 2005
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    Re: co2 and other carbon sources

    I used DIY on my home systems for 10 years.

    The reactor was designed with DIY in mind but works equally as well with pressurized gas tank CO2.

    For 20-40$ for a reg on Ebay, 50-75$ for a tank(local beverage places/fire extingusher places), 10-20$ for a needle valve, this is not much.

    I had a hard time agruing..........

    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     
    #8 Tom Barr, May 19, 2005
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