Can't Work Out What Deficiencies These Plants Have?

Kyle Bausch

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Ive had everything over a month and a half from tissue culture and everything has this browning over it? Please help!

Im waiting on a fluval 3.0 light fitting. Have been dosing with flourish I'm using amazonia soil. Cleaning weekly. Im getting heaps of brown algae on glass and BBA on rocks.

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T.Smith

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Looks like a diatom algae bloom, brown algae is a natural process in the water cycle, I don’t know all the science behind it I just know every tank I had got it In the first couple months for a couple weeks. Try manually removeing it with weekly water changes, should go away on its own, the browning of the leaves from the pictures just looks like algae, diatom algae can get dark and pretty dence and attaches to everything, try to remove it from the leaves I believe it can block radiation causing unhealthy plants which cause other algae problems. High surface agitation so you can pump more co2 in. KeeperOfASilentWorld always knocks it out of the park with the algae issues, get that co2 game on point.
 

Kyle Bausch

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Looks like a diatom algae bloom, brown algae is a natural process in the water cycle, I don’t know all the science behind it I just know every tank I had got it In the first couple months for a couple weeks. Try manually removeing it with weekly water changes, should go away on its own, the browning of the leaves from the pictures just looks like algae, diatom algae can get dark and pretty dence and attaches to everything, try to remove it from the leaves I believe it can block radiation causing unhealthy plants which cause other algae problems. High surface agitation so you can pump more co2 in. KeeperOfASilentWorld always knocks it out of the park with the algae issues, get that co2 game on point.
Yeah true, weird thing is, its not a new tank by any means. So there shouldnt be s cycle happening. Ive been removing it with weekly changes though and when i do, the water goes cloudy for the entire week. As if to suggest a bacteria bloom. I guess its just patience and following keeper's advice! Cheers for the reply mate.
 

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If the water goes cloudy from my experience it indicates low beneficial bateria you can add seachem’s stability should clear up over night, maybe that’s why we get diatom algae in the beginning, just a immatrue bacteria colony and if it dies off for what ever reason it would get cloudy and be subseptable to diatom algae again. What for biological filtration do you have?
 
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Kyle Bausch

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If the water goes cloudy from my experience it indicates low beneficial bateria you can add seachem’s stability should clear up over night, maybe that’s why we get diatom algae in the beginning, just a immatrue bacteria colony and if it dies off for what ever reason it would get cloudy and be subseptable to diatom algae again. What for biological filtration do you have?
Good point. I just have the eheim canister 2215. The media im using is what came with it!
 
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Any recommendation on the browning of leaves?

All will disappear once you increase plant mass and growth rate with better maintenance. As T.Smith suggested supplementing with Seachem Stability and Pristine is a good measure.

Unlimiting levels of CO2 is a must. Therefore, aim for 35-40 and above with good surface agitation.

2215 usually comes without the media. Did it come with SubstratePro or by media do you mean the blue coarse sponges, the "2215 with taps" version comes with? If you only have sponges in there, better to get some Seachem Matrix or Eheim SubstratePro.

Could you provide more information about this setup in order for our approach to be more efficient?
 
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Kyle Bausch

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All will disappear once you increase plant mass and growth rate with better maintenance. As T.Smith suggested supplementing with Seachem Stability and Pristine is a good measure.

Unlimiting levels of CO2 is a must. Therefore, aim for 35-40 and above with good surface agitation.

2215 usually comes without the media. Did it come with SubstratePro or by media do you mean the blue coarse sponges, the "2215 with taps" version comes with? If you only have sponges in there, better to get some Seachem Matrix or Eheim SubstratePro.

Could you provide more information about this setup in order for our approach to be more efficient?
Thanks for taking the time to get more info in order to help, i appreciate it!

So my entire set up incudles:
- fluval 3.0 light fixture
- 200L tank, i cant remember exact dimensions except that its 120mm (4ft) long.
- 2 x eheim 2215 canister filters with taps, they both came with the blue sponge, carbon pad (removed a year or so ago), the white filter sponge (have replaced multiple times as required), ceramic noodles and the small brown bio balls (not sure what they're called)
- Up Aqua inline Co2 atomizer
- 2 x small powerheads at the end where Co2 is comming out of filter
- local branded regulator/bubble counter/solenoid. Im not sure how good the quality is to be honest. Im Using Co2 rated tubeing.
- amazonia soil

Original Stock list all except fissidens are from tissue culture:
HC cuba (mistook this for monte carlo)
E.blehrae
Pogostemon helferi
Fissidens moss
Floscopa sandens
Riccia
Rusby chain swords
Lobelia
Anubias Barteri
Vesicularia ferriei wheeping moss

Since this post suggested more plant mass ive added:
- 1 x bunch wisteria
- 1 x bunch XL java fern
- 1 x bunch ludwigia
--1x bunch blue stricta
And will be planting 2 x tissue cultured monte carlo

One thing to note; my inline atomizer has some water in it that i think came from initial use of Co2 from the bubble counter water. It seems to be making a noise as if its leaking Co2...

I hope this helps and isnt too much text. Apologies for the delayed response and thanks again

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just a basic question here. when you set up the amazonia substrate did you do the water changes as frequently as required? 30-40% every day for first week, every second day for second week, every 3rd day for 3rd week, and twice a week for the 4th week? Amazonia leaches out a lot of ammonia and I lost lot of crypts and parvula the first time I used it, without the above water change regime. In my second set up, I got it right.
 

Kyle Bausch

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just a basic question here. when you set up the amazonia substrate did you do the water changes as frequently as required? 30-40% every day for first week, every second day for second week, every 3rd day for 3rd week, and twice a week for the 4th week? Amazonia leaches out a lot of ammonia and I lost lot of crypts and parvula the first time I used it, without the above water change regime. In my second set up, I got it right.
That's one i didn't think of! I definitely didnt do that, however i also didnt plant anything for around a month after putting the soil in. I put the soil in when i moved house as i had always wanted to do planted and thought it was a good time to start.
 

Kyle Bausch

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Add bristlenose catfish!!! :)
Thanks mate! had them in orgionally before ever starting a planted tank. Once i started planting the tank they destroyed everything. So i gave them to my cousin. Since this post ive added ottos. They seem to help, but my balance is still off somewhere.