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Cannot get rid of brown algae

Discussion in 'General Plant Topics' started by borman, Mar 10, 2008.

  1. borman

    borman Prolific Poster

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    My tank started at January 27.
    (125x50x50) cm. pure water volume – aprox 250l
    No fish – only 10 amano shrimps
    Т-24-25 deg

    First 15 days lighting was – only 130 w by simple daylight lamp. After some time since start I receive a lot of brown algae, they cover substrate with thick layer.
    After that I made my DIY pendant and now I have 2x150 wt MH sylavnia aquaarc 10000K(9000lm)+2x36 T8 lamp, - so in total – more then 1 wt/l.
    Lighting schedule is following:
    14-00 – 15-00 – 2x36 T8 Osram 765
    15-00- 20-00 - 2x36 T8+2 MHx150
    20-00 – 21-00 - 2x36 T8

    Also after 1 month I start dosing fertilizers. (DIY too)
    Dayly dosage :
    NO3 – 1ppm, PO4 – 0.06ppm, - K – 1 ppm,
    Fe – 0.1 ppm
    Mn 0,003
    B 0,018
    Cu 0,0014
    Zn 0,006
    Mo 0,0007
    Water changes – every week 50% with double dosing after.
    CO-2 through ceramic glass diffuser 2.2 bps 12 hours - off for night
    Perling is good after 2-3 ours of light on
    PH morning - aprox 7.0
    Plant grows is not so good (by my opinion – I think may be because of insuff level of K)

    BUT I cannot get rid of this brown algae – even it appear that fills very good under such lighting and even grows…

    I really tired to collect it form plants every day and siphon its form substrate every water change….

    So here I seating and thinking what I do wrong:
    1. May be its because My lighting period is not long enough? – but I scare I I add more then 5 hours of MH lighting - I will get thread algae (I even see it now but in really small amount and trying to remove as far as see it)
    2. My be because of lonf stem plants on the background (geterantera zosterofolia and hygrofila polysperma) planted very densely and its insufficient light in the lower area? – but on the foreground – its no any density – but the same problems – even more amount.
    3.May be something wrong with filtering – cause a lot of algae get to filter (Atman 1200 l/h), when I trying to remove it.
    4. I don’t think it because of fert, cause the amount of algae before and after fertilizing not changed.
    5. CO2 is in good (not perfect) but good amount
    6. Maybe because of my water GH – 15 dGh

    Please help me to find reason.
    P>S Amano shrimps did not eat this algae at all.
     
  2. VaughnH

    VaughnH Lifetime Charter Member
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    You really have a lot of light! For that much light you need to be sure the plants have everything they need to grow or several kinds of algae will be growing. You say you have 2.2 bubbles per second, but that isn't likely to be enough for an 85 gallon tank, unless you have very, very good diffusion, and a ceramic diffuser isn't that good. If you get a drop checker and use it with 4 dKH distilled or deionized water in it you will have a much better idea about how much CO2 you have in the water. Then, your tank is heavily planted, especially down near the substrate where the brown algae is growing. It may be that you have very little water movement down there. A powerhead can help augment the circulation near the substrate if you put it low in the tank, so it swirls the water around the tank. Only by continuing to replenish the water around each plant can you be sure that that water is enriched with CO2 and other nutrients. Since I don't normally work with ppm's when I figure how much fertilizers to dose I'm not sure that you have enough. It looks like you are lean on dosing.

    Those are just my thoughts about what I see.
     
  3. borman

    borman Prolific Poster

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    Thanks for the quick reply.

    Actually right in foreground zone- the plant density is low - its only Ehinodorus tennelis several bushes and some crypts -also low amount of Eleoharis.
    Two main places where algae appear is:
    1. In the background between longstems plant stems (a lot of)
    2. in the foreground , right in substrate between and above the small plants.

    About CO2 diffusion.
    Actually before I have DIY flow reactor (installed after the filter outlet), but then I tried ceramic diffuser cause see that a lot of people use it. Also I have the DIY DC but it works very strange I made it from small penicillin flacon http://www.imbt-vector.ru/img/prof.jpg
    And install inside cuted 5ml syringe. Inside DKH4 water+bromotimol blue – and its after some time becoming green-yellow – but its take long time and, for example when I pull t out form tank – its not getting blue only more green after for example one or two hours. I do not know exact reason of it – so I can not measure CO2 level precisely.

    About ferts – may be to try 1?5 dayly dose each day – instead of my dosage, … but what the real reason of brown algae – low amount of light, or something else ?

    Ohh. My head go nuts about this. ^-)
     
  4. VaughnH

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    Low light is not a cause of algae unless the light is too low for the plants to grow at all. You have adequate light for sure.
     
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