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"Balance" 65 Gallon Dutch Aquascape, ((( Plants Are In!!! )))

Discussion in 'Journals' started by DutchMuch, Jul 2, 2017.

  1. DutchMuch

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    Ordered HTH pool filter sand, anyone tried that specific brand? Anyway should be here next week I presume or something. Also anyone know the answer to the above comment, would love to hear back on both of these things.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that light will give plenty of par with all 6400k bulbs lol. You'll probably end up having to mess around with different bulb combinations to reduce par if the fixture only has the option of all bulbs on or all bulbs off.

    If I can make a suggestion, look around for a fixture that has multiple banks. Something like, one bank would have four inside bulbs on one switch and second bank would have two outside bulbs on another switch.
     
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    ah ok, thanks @slipfinger for your input it reassures me a bunch! Will look into what you said, and figure some ways around to much par. This is where a par meter would be fantastic but just can afford it $$$

    On the side note, ordered my Co2 setup from GLA this afternoon, easy transaction, etc etc etc, so ill hook it up to the other tank until the big tank is all setup (the fluval, it has a double bubble counter so it can hook up to two tanks) and also found a place to fill it up with Co2, local fire protection place does it. Anyone know what a Hydro check is? she said you need one every five years for an additional 16$ (don't mind), I think she said hydro, called there so it was kind of static...
    Its official, I have 18.97$ on my debit card guys....
     
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    ok so as of right now I have a 17watt 24" T8 on the tank, and the tank is 25" tall to the bottom of the tank (glass). How much PAR does anyone think its giving off then at that height? im going to try rotala butterfly really quick as well.
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    Just tried Rotala Butterfly, said this;
    PAR @ Depth: NaN
    LUX @ Depth: NaN
    Lumens/Watt: 93
    Lumens: 1581
    LSI: NaN
    Watts/Liter: NaN
    Watts/Gal: NaN
    Sq m: NaN
    Tank liters: NaN
    Tank US gallons: NaN

    so do I have 0 par?
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    Wait wait, just tried again;
    PAR @ Depth: 1
    LUX @ Depth: 1372
    Lumens/Watt: 93
    Lumens: 1581
    LSI: 2.25
    Watts/Liter: 0.06
    Watts/Gal: 0.22
    Sq m: 0.4536
    Tank liters: 288.00
    Tank US gallons: 76.08

    so I have 1 par... idk...
    Is this right?
     
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    Everyone please Thank Aquatic Arts for becoming an official sponsor, they are providing the fish for the tank. :)
    Videos of this aquascape once its started will be posted on Youtube.
     
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    Congrats.

    Regarding your light, par will be low with that depth of tank and T8's.

    But your new light should fix this issue!
     
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    6 tube new light will be a drastic change.
    Beware of algae!
    Dimming ballasts?
     
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    Until the new light comes im not going to order anything else or do anything, basically... It'll be awhile until it comes though, so for now ill just grow out the PW carpet when the sand is in there (even with low par, I have an extra LED I can put up there) and some of the "medium to high" tech plants. I don't think it'll be a problem.
     
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    ah ok, well thanks though.
    Idk anyone on here who has used them...
     
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    It is a saftey test. They fill the cylinder with water under pressure to its max rating. This ensures that it doesn't burst when you have it full of gas, due to corrosion or cracks. It is much safer to use water for the test as much less energy is released it the cylinder bursts.
     
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    The Plant List:
    Foreground;
    Pearlweed
    AR mini
    S. Repens
    Dwarf Baby Tears
    Pogostemon Helferi

    Midground:
    Crypt. wendtii Tropica
    Rotala sp. Green
    rotala sp. Colorata
    Ludwigia Pantanal

    BackGround:
    Pogostemon Erectus
    Rotala Wallichii
    Eleocharis "Montevidensis" (this will be the height of the tank, and places in the center outer middle of the tank.
    Rotala Macandra

    Any suggestions? I feel like im missing some holes.. but at the same time I feel like im ok as is?...
     
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    Those crypt wendtii tropicas can turn into some big plants, and spread around. I like the hammered leaves and the bronze color but they are a pain in my opinion. I have them in my tank and they have 6-7 inch leaves and so many leaves they are bushes. With co2 and high light, they will take real estate from the rest of your plants, which sounds like a long list. Holes!?!? Sounds like you have enough plants for a jungle!

    Can't wait to see you setup this tank DutchMuch...
     
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    @Dale Hazey thanks for the reply,
    I chose the crypt tropicas because I heard (from many people) with higher light, the "flatter" they will grow, and in lower light the longer the leaves get to reach closer to the light. I guess your right, try with what I have, and go from there. I have about another month until I get the light fixture, then about half a month after that to get the plants. Fish are when the plants arrive to.
    Idk I guess its a swing & miss kind of deal right now
     
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    I can vouch for this as well. I put one small plant in my main tank and it turned into a monster (picture in my journal). When I finally removed and sold it, it was close to 10" across and taking up a lot of real estate in the tank.

    The geek in me did a quick calculation and that one single plant was taking up ~9% of my tanks total foot print.
     
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    Dang sounds like its a pretty mean plant. How fast does it grow in a week @slipfinger if you know? I don't mind trimming and all that, I prefer it. But if its "invasive" I of course don't want that. May have to just stick it in the emersed setup.
     
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    It was in the tank probably 2 months or a little less. It grew flat and stayed really close to the substrate in my tank, probably due to the high light.
     
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    What about GreenGecko, I don't think that's as aggressive? @slipfinger
     
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    Got a free buceplant package today.
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    Crypt wendtii brown, Mioya, and tropica.

    This the package would have liked to of received from buceplant the first time, plants that are Alive, not dead, and are properly boxed.
    Glad I got this package though from them, they asked me to change my rating, I still wouldn't (wouldnt be present tense), and my reason for this is;
    Why not ship it Right the first time rather than having to go through all the trouble to send me free stuff in the end and lose money? I don't get it, maybe someone else does but I must be blind!

    anyway for now ill put some of these in the Fluval, and the emersed setup.

    Oh btw @slipfinger @Phishless I guess you were right, about the tropica because it has side shoots coming out of the container its in.
     
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