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Bürkert 6011 solenoids with Buna seals ... available very soon

Discussion in 'CO2 Enrichment' started by Left C, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. Left C

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    Hi guys

    This is a heads up if you are looking for a high quality solenoid at a reasonable price for your pressurized CO2 systems. Bürkert is going to have two models of their 6011 1/8" NPT solenoids with Buna-N Seals for CO2 duty. Buna-N is the seal material used in paintball guns and holds up very well with CO2 use. One model will have a brass body and the other one will have a stainless steel body. They will be manufactured in Germany. Below are the specifications and the ordering information.

    Left C





    New Bürkert 6011 Buna-N solenoid part numbers, LED DIN part numbers and prices


    • Bürkert 6011 material: BRASS: 00463938
    • Bürkert 6011 material: STAINLESS STEEL: 00463939

    These are all three 2506 DIN 120V LED DIN's. The model 008 403 (w/o circuitry) is the one recommended for our use. Do note that these solenoids come stock with a DIN connector that doesn't have an LED. The LED DIN connectors are optional. These is a one week lead time on these DIN connectors.
    • 120V model 008 403 has a LED w/o circuitry with a max 3A circuit rating
    • 120V model 008 355 has a LED, varistor and rectifier with a max 1A circuit rating
    • 120V model 008 409 has a LED and varistor with a max 3A circuit rating (A varistor is a type of surge protector and the rectifier changes the current from AC to DC.)



    NOTE: If you want a solenoid with the LED DIN cable plug, you will have to order both the solenoid and the LED DIN. The solenoid does not come as stock with a cable plug.


    **** Bürkert technical support told me that these 6011 solenoids are designed such that being energized 24/7 is not a problem.


    6011 BUNA-N SOLENOID SPECIFICATIONS

    00463938
    • material: BRASS
    • description: 2/2-WAY MINI-SOLENOID VALVE, DIR. ACTING
    • mat description: 6011-A02,0BBMSNM81-2-120/60-04 PD02
    • type: 6011
    • circuit function: A: 2/2-WAYS; NORMALLY CLOSED
    • orifice size: 02,0: 5/64
    • seal material: BB: NBR
    • body material: MS: BR
    • port connection: NM81: NPT1/8
    • coil size: 2: 0,79 INCH
    • voltage: 120V
    • frequency: 60Hz
    • power consumption: 4W
    • Var1: PD02: UR (UL-RECOGNIZED)/CSA-APPROVAL
    • technical data: PRESSURE
    • pressure min: 0
    • pressure max: 8
    • technical data: FLOW-RATE
    • KV: 0,110


    00463939
    • material: STAINLESS STEEL
    • description: 2/2-WAY MINI-SOLENOID VALVE, DIR. ACTING
    • mat description: 6011-A02,0BBVANM81-2-120/60-04 PD02
    • type: 6011
    • circuit function: A: 2/2-WAYS; NORMALLY CLOSED
    • orifice size: 02,0: 5/64
    • seal material: BB: NBR
    • body material: VA: SS
    • port connection: NM81: NPT1/8
    • coil size: 2: 0,79 INCH
    • voltage: 120V
    • frequency: 60Hz
    • power consumption: 4W
    • Var1: PD02: UR (UL-RECOGNIZED)/CSA-APPROVAL
    • technical data: PRESSURE
    • pressure min: 0
    • pressure max: 8
    • technical data: FLOW-RATE
    • KV: 0,110


    __________________________________________________________________________________________________



    Brett Easterling, at Bürkert, called me on 6/26/10 and told me that there are going to be two 6011 series solenoids available with Buna-N seals vs the Viton seals that usually come in them. Buna-N is very good for CO2 duty where Viton is just rated as good with CO2.

    They will be based on their brass model numbers 456786 and their stainless steel model model number 457157. These have 1/8" NPT ports and are made for 120v/60Hz.


    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


    freshwatersystems.com will be carrying these solenoids for direct order from them.

    This is the link to the two Buna-N solenoids and LED DIN cable plugs with and without a varistor at freshwatersystems.com. https://www.freshwatersystems.com/c-496-solenoid-valves.aspx

    http://www.freshwatersystems.com/p-6016-22-miniature-solenoid-valve-brass-body.aspx

    http://www.freshwatersystems.com/p-6015-22-miniature-solenoid-valve-stainless-steel-body.aspx

    http://www.freshwatersystems.com/p-6017-cable-plug-to-din-43650-no-varistor.aspx

    http://www.freshwatersystems.com/p-6018-cable-plug-to-din-43650-with-varistor.aspx



    How to wire the 2056 cable plug and proper orientation of the solenoid. It is directional.


    Wiring the Bürkert cable plug DIY: http://www.barrreport.com/showthread.php/7783-How-to-wire-a-Burkert-type-6011-solenoid

    Make sure that you have the Bürkert solenoid in the proper orientation: http://www.barrreport.com/showthread.php/7864-Burkert-Solenoids-gas-flow-direction-is-important-in-preventing-leaks
     
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    This is nice to see. Does make me curious though if anyone has had problems with the Viton deteriorating to the point of leaking / failure due to exposure to CO2. I'd also like to see the interior design of the valve. After pulling apart a few different Parker solenoid valves I came to the conclusion that some are better able to handle a little bit of grit / foreign debris getting inside without causing a malfunction.
     
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    Bürkert says that it's not that the Viton seals are bad; it's just that the Buna seals are better than Viton for CO2 use. A plus is that there is no price increase for the Buna seals.

    My 456786 with Viton seals is about 3 years old and I haven't had any trouble with it at all.

    Is the Bürkert better than than some models of Parker solenoids? I don't know. I haven't used any Parker solenoids.

    Right now, in order to get a good Parker, You have to either wait on ebay (to produce one) or probably pay retail for one. These Bürkert's are going to be available at a good price.
     
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    This is good! Mine stuck open on me again today, after my last round of trying to fix it again 2 days ago - I think I'm finally done with this thing,.. and i'm more than willing to spend the money on a reliable peice of equiptment that I don't have to have apart twice a week.

    Whiskey
     
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    Orlando from GLA says he's got some custom SS models that will never clog or stick.
    They will be a bit more, but really good grade.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     
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    I would love to try Burkert!
     
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    He doesn't sell individual parts though.
     
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    Definitely agree that this is good news. A Burkert is the next thing on my list after the regulator.

    It is a shame Orlando doesn't sell the custom SS models individually :(
     
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    Left C,

    I assume I can order an electical cord for this solenoid as well at the same time? Anything else I need just for the solenoid portion of a new rig?
     
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    It doesn't come with a power cord. It uses an 18/3 power cord. This is the power cord used on many home computers.

    You can use the more common 16/3 with a bit of fiddling. Here is bsmith's DIY using a 16/3 power cord. http://www.barrreport.com/showthread.php/7429-B%C3%BCrkert-6011-solenoids-with-Buna-seals-...-available-very-soon?p=59199#post59199

    You shouldn't need anything else other than a non-hardening pipe joint compound for assembly with the fittings.
     
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    6011s were created with Buna Seals. See price and delivery for brass and SS valves. New part #s are 00463938 for brass and 00463939 for SS.

    material: BRASS: 00463938 = $45.40 Price: 5-6 weeks lead time
    description: 2/2-WAY MINI-SOLENOID VALVE, DIR. ACTING
    mat description: 6011-A02,0BBMSNM81-2-120/60-04 PD02
    type: 6011
    circuit function: A: 2/2-WAYS; NORMALLY CLOSED
    orifice size: 02,0: 5/64
    seal material: BB: NBR
    body material: MS: BR
    port connection: NM81: NPT1/8
    coil size: 2: 0,79 INCH
    voltage: 120V
    frequency: 60Hz
    power consumption: 4W
    Var1: PD02: UR (UL-RECOGNIZED)/CSA-APPROVAL
    technical data: PRESSURE
    pressure min: 0
    pressure max: 8
    technical data: FLOW-RATE
    KV: 0,110
    QNN: 0

    material: STAINLESS STEEL: 00463939 = $81.50 Price: 5-6 week lead time
    description: 2/2-WAY MINI-SOLENOID VALVE, DIR. ACTING
    mat description: 6011-A02,0BBVANM81-2-120/60-04 PD02
    type: 6011
    circuit function: A: 2/2-WAYS; NORMALLY CLOSED
    orifice size: 02,0: 5/64
    seal material: BB: NBR
    body material: VA: SS
    port connection: NM81: NPT1/8
    coil size: 2: 0,79 INCH
    voltage: 120V
    frequency: 60Hz
    power consumption: 4W
    Var1: PD02: UR (UL-RECOGNIZED)/CSA-APPROVAL
    technical data: PRESSURE
    pressure min: 0
    pressure max: 8
    technical data: FLOW-RATE
    KV: 0,110
    QNN: 0



    Bürkert Fluid Control Systems
    Bürkert Contromatic Corp.
    Brett Easterling
    Area Sales Manager
    2915 Whitehall Park Drive, Suite 650
    Charlotte , NC 28273
    Tel. (864) 735-3238
    Fax (949) 223-3198
    brett.easterling@burkert.com
    www.burkert-usa.com
     
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    I just ordered one of each solenoid.
     
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    Left C,

    Didn't you have a Burkert before?
     
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    Yes. I've been using a 456786 for about 3 years. No problems. It's the solenoid shown in my avatar. The only minus is that it doesn't have a light to show when it's on like the Clippards' have. You can get a LED cable plug in three varieties..
     
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    Actually you can get LED connectors for them. I have a few in use right now that are a few years old.
     
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    Having an LED with the 120V solenoids is great news. I looked over Bürkert's 6011 spec sheets a few months back and all I saw listed with LED's were the 24V DC models. I didn't even ask Brett about them because of what I read.

    I'll ask him about them after the holiday. I would like to have them included.

    Thanks a bunch!

    PS: Are you going to Daytona?
     
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    I have probably a dozen connectors still in the bag Im sure. Also keep in mind you dont have to use "there" connector. You can use what ever you want as long as the specs line up.

    No Daytona for me these days. But, I will be headed to the Mountains next week for wood and rock/boulder collecting:) Also a few days of hiking:)
     
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    Hey Left C, will you keep us in form with the solenoid model w/LED Connector Thanks , Just waiting to order mine as soon as I get the info thanks!
     
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    We should get a response from Bürkert very soon. Holidays ...

    Their 2506 DIN is available with a yellow LED light in three different 120V configurations. It's a DIN EN 175301-803, Form C (formerly DIN 43650) type of DIN.

    These are the models:
    120V model 008 403 has a LED and no circuitry with a max 3A circuit rating
    120V model 008 355 has a LED, varistor and rectifier with a max 1A circuit rating
    120V model 008 409 has a LED and varistor with a max 3A circuit rating

    The DIN connector on my old one is a model 008 353 that has no circuitry and no LED.

    I believe that a varistor is a type of surge protector and a rectifier allows flow in only one direction (changes AC to DC).
     
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    I have an answer from Bürkert technical support about the 2506 LED DIN's. The model 008 403 (w/o circuitry) are the ones that we need. They are an optional part at $9.00.

    So, if you want a solenoid with the LED DIN, you will have to order both the solenoid and the LED DIN. If you don't want the LED DIN, just order the solenoid by itself.

    These are the prices for all three 2506 120V LED DIN's. The 008 403 is what is recommended:
    120V model 008 403 has a LED w/o circuitry with a max 3A circuit rating
    120V model 008 355 has a LED, varistor and rectifier with a max 1A circuit rating
    120V model 008 409 has a LED and varistor with a max 3A circuit rating

    A varistor is a type of surge protector and the rectifier changes the current from AC to DC.

    Again, you will place your order through Jennifer Martin listed in post #1 above.

    2506 Data Sheet: http://www.burkert.com/products_data/datasheets/DS2506-Standard-EU-EN.pdf
     
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