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After the vacation: the 120 Gallon Dutch something or another, a nice algae mess

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    CO2 gas tank ran out about 2 days after I left.
    I did not have the guy dose anything. Just add water and clean instakes of leaves, sponge filter in the prefilter.
    10 days later:

    [​IMG]


    Day day and I cleaned the tank well, trimmed most all of the plants, 2 hours later and a 60% water change:
    [​IMG]

    I'll post another pic from today.

    Stuff happens, but I can fix most any issue pretty easily.
     
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    Next day:

    [​IMG]
     
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    I still need to trim the Blood vomits and the Tonina. Then see about some weird foreground plant that the gold nugget will not maul on the left corner.
     
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    This was the 180 gallon a few months ago.
    [​IMG]

    Next day:

    postcleanup_zpsc4ffb7cb.jpg

    I'd removed the royal farowellas and messed with a new CO2 system.


    Adding say 10-20 bushy nose plecos would do the same thing is 2-3 days without any other input.
     
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    Wow, amazing what happens without co2 for a few days! And just rump co2 up again made the trick?
     
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    Cleaning really well, good trimming(120) ..........then good sized water changes. Then.............you return good optimal conditions back to the prior condition.

    Algae are NOT an issue then.

    They are pretty easy to get rid of once you do those steps.

    Which is the main point here.

    Focus is the Plant care, not algae.
     
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    Wow. That happened fast. Everything looks healthy, though.
     
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    After the vacation: the 120 Gallon Dutch something or another, a nice algae mess

    Great points and proof that algae can be easily managed by tackling the right triggers :)

    And yes: focus on plants, not algae.
     
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    You run out of co2 and get a little green hair algae, I run out of co2 and BBA starts popping up all over. Why is there no BBA starting to pop up in your tank and that is the only algae I get when co2 is not always at a consistent level? It never grows on my plants but the driftwood and rocks is another story. If I go a day without co2 you can almost watch it start to grow and as soon as the co2 is back up and running a day or two later you can see it starting to turn whitish/grey and withers away. What gives. I would much rather have that kind of algae than that BBA crap. I always feel like I'm teetering on the brink with BBA.
     
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    This is the path, but so many fail to focus on this and get distracted.
    There is no debate on the FACTS.

    Fact is, plants grow well= algae does not.
    Start there, and the rest is easy.
     
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    This is the path, but so many fail to focus on this and get distracted.
    There is no debate on the FACTS.

    Fact is, plants grow well= algae does not.
    Start there, and the rest is easy.
     
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    Wow that is a bunch of algae.
    And now all gone.
    Wow I guess co2 is it then.
    Or a mixture of both.

    Jeff
     
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    Many people fail to grasp what the problem really is, and therefore can't fix it. This goes to show that understanding each part of the system allows anyone to keep a successful planted tank. It truly is a balance.
     
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    Looks great after the trim. What are the dimensions of this tank?
     
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    Hey Tom

    Did you remove plants like blood vomit to clean them manually? I get that same algae issue. I have a crinum and an apono that gets it with gda on the glass increases. Would you trim off these affected leaves or treat chemically?
     
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    Not only that, but to fix most any problem that arises, and those ..........will always happen at some point.
     
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    Nothing I know of kills GDA.

    Hair algae, the busan 77 works, eg API algaefix, but you need to focus on plant growth if you get either of these 2 green algae.
    If the leaf looks like a sink rather than source for growth, I trim them.


    This is mostly a poor plant growth=> algae relationship. It actually always has been.

    Most folks forget the reason and the goal they got into the hobby: to grow nice aquatic plants and garden.
    Do this, then there's much less issue.
     
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    After the vacation: the 120 Gallon Dutch something or another, a nice algae mess

    Yes. The problem is that sometimes (like in my case now) I can't really find a way out from having some struggling plants (not all of them) and still algae around. Little, but still there. Co2 can't be increased more because fish would suffer, then what??!!
     
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