ADA Amazonia vs Amazonia light both normal type

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Are these two substrates the same?
The description of the normal and the light are different.
I'm hoping they're the same.
The light color looks really nice.
 

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NO not the same!
Amazonia light is for a Very high light tank.
Amazonia normal is, well normal and is what most people use because of the substrates flexibility.
If you mixed the two... Oh well, I think youll be ok.
 

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■Features of Amazonia Light
Even with Aqua Soil-Amazonia with a reputation as a substrate material for good plant growth, the newcomer aquarium hobbyists and even hobbyists with some experience may feel it’s difficult to handle their aquariums particularly during the initial setup period. When Amazonia soil is used in an aquarium where aquatic plants have not grown big yet, the rich organic compounds and nitrogen contained in Amazonia leach into the water and sometimes cause cloudiness or colored water and algal growth in the tank. These problems will eventually be resolved when aquatic plants grow large and cover the substrate surface, but until such an environment is established in the tank, the frequent water change is needed to keep the aquarium in a good condition. Amazonia Light containing less organic compounds and nitrogen reduces the chance of problems during the initial setup period of an aquarium. Another feature of Amazonia Light is its natural light brown color. The standard Amazonia soils are almost black color due to the black soil used as the base material. Although this black color is a proof of rich Humic acid and other organic acids contained in the soil, the constant use of the same color soil may limit the variation of impressions in aquascape. To overcome this issue, reddish Aqua Soil-Africana and yellowish Aqua Soil-Malaya were proposed to increase color variations, but these soils have the problem of insufficient nutrient contents which leads to slower plant growth compared with Amazonia. Unlike these soils, the Amazonia Light containing a moderate amount of black soil provides the nutrients sufficient for plant growth with its natural light brown color.

■Comparison of plant growth rate between Amazonia and Amazonia Light
Then, how are Amazonia and Amazonia Light different in properties? When judging the impact on water quality, the capacity of bringing soil and water pH down and the capacity of reducing carbonate hardness (KH) of water were comparable between these two soils. This result shows that Amazonia Light also achieves the water conditions suitable for growing ordinary aquatic plants. Subsequently, a comparison of COD (the measurement of organic compounds in water) and ammonium (NH4) (the measurement of nitrogen content) was performed and it was found that both of these parameters were lower in the case where Amazonia Light was used. The value of phosphoric acid (PO4) was also lower in the case of Amazonia Light. From these results, it is assumed that there will be less chance of cloudy water and algae growth when Amazonia Light is used. This assumption was further supported by the comparative experiment of the two soils for plant growth. In the case of Aqua Soil-Amazonia, the stem plants grew taller with the help of ammonium and phosphoric acid contained in the Amazonia, but at the same time, diatom (brown algae) and green algae grew more rapidly and it caused a temporary slowdown of the growth rate of foreground plants (refer to the pictures of “After 4 days” and “After 8 days”). On the other hand, in the case where Amazonia Light is used, both the stem plants and foreground plants showed healthy growth without being covered by algae. The density and color of the plant leaves were also sufficient (refer to the pictures of “After 12 days” and “After 18 days”). This difference is possibly due to the fact that the nitrogen source in Amazonia Light is nitric acid (NO3). As we all know, the history of Nature Aquarium proves that aquatic plants grow healthily on Amazonia substrate with proper care and maintenance. Still, the handling of aquarium in the initial setup period will be easier with Amazonia Light in most cases. The launch of Amazonia Light marks a new era where aquascapers can choose Amazonia and Amazonia Light depending on their aquarium maintenance skills and color preference.


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I'm no expert by a long shot. I agree, I don't know if I can handle the ADA. What if I try Floramax. I'm going to have rocks at both ends of the tank. I'd like to put sand in between the rocks. The floramax wont come in contact with the sand.
 

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I agree, I don't know if I can handle the ADA
idk anything about Floramax sadly.
by this do you mean you cant handle the nutrients in it? as in you don't have many plants to absorb this nutrients?
Are you going to plant heavily from the start?
high light or low light?
can I have some general info on your tank, Co2, light, filtration, etc... ?
 

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NO not the same!
Amazonia light is for a Very high light tank.
Amazonia normal is, well normal and is what most people use because of the substrates flexibility.
If you mixed the two... Oh well, I think youll be ok.

I'm going to be blunt @DutchMuch, best not to comment on a products you are not familiar with.

I truely hope you did not say that Amazonia Light is designed for very high light tanks as in high par levels......... This is absolutely not true.

I will give you credit for redeeming yourself with post #3 though and actually posting some solid info about the products! Even if it copied and pasted.
 

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I truely hope you did not say that Amazonia Light is designed for very high light tanks as in high par levels......... This is absolutely not true.
someone else told me this, took their word for it. Background research it is.
Everyone isn't always right... ;)
I will give you credit for redeeming yourself with post #3 though and actually posting some solid info about the products! Even if it copied and pasted.
I try my best!
 
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idk anything about Floramax sadly.
by this do you mean you cant handle the nutrients in it? as in you don't have many plants to absorb this nutrients?
Are you going to plant heavily from the start?
high light or low light?
can I have some general info on your tank, Co2, light, filtration, etc... ?

Yeah, I'm not going to plant heavy.
My tank is a 40 gal breeder, CO2 injection, Fluval 70hob filter, Current USA Satellite, 2 16" Chichiros leds ADA knock offs I think?
I'd say my light is Med, Plantings I'd say about half of the tank and some floating plants.
 

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Well, I'll have to try something else. The set up I'm going to try will have the front open and part of the middle as well.
Thanks for the help.
 

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Let me ask this. In another tank I want to try pond media, it's like sand, well close to it. Should I use any additives like the ADA stuff Bacter 100 super clear or something like Flora spore?
I guess the real question here is, in general can I use substrate additives with any substrate?
 

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I wouldn't fear AS, the main issue is the leaching of ammonia early on but if you keep up with water changes you'll be okay. Pool filter sand is a nice cheap option, just make sure your following an EI dosing regime and you should do quite well. It's a good substrate as it's granules are enough to keep plants anchored, allow nutrients to reach the roots, and nice to look at. Root tabs aren't a bad idea either.
 
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Let me ask this. In another tank I want to try pond media, it's like sand, well close to it. Should I use any additives like the ADA stuff Bacter 100 super clear or something like Flora spore?
I guess the real question here is, in general can I use substrate additives with any substrate?
You sure can, you just need to be careful about what your adding and how much.
 

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I am no expert, more of a well read noob.

I think If you use substrate additives you would want some substrate or a layer of substrate with some CEC so that these additives have a place to stay, or they might just easily migrate to the water column.

I am assuming a substrate additive is a form of fertilizer?
 

Dale Hazey

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Why not just get some cheap pool filter sand or blasting sand? Some of that blasting sand looks great. Cheap. Dose the water column... Easy peezy
 
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I am assuming a substrate additive is a form of fertilizer?

Root tabs I thought, or maybe like @Christophe is doing with his experiment, putting liquids IN the substrate. Or the ADA start up stuff maybe. Idk... lol.
Why not just get some cheap pool filter sand or blasting sand? Some of that blasting sand looks great. Cheap. Dose the water column... Easy peezy

Completely agree Dale. Dosing the water column with estimative index depending on tank size of course, is actually really cheap. I recommend using NilocG fertilizers because you get what you pay for if not even more than you pay for. Customer service is personal with the owner, so you get 100% amazing customer care/service.
All my fertz have come from here and I highly recommend it, I know the owner personally, and he makes his customers Guaranteed happy when they receive their products.
 

Dale Hazey

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I was wrong, these additives are for root development and bacterial development.

Idk I don't think it's necessary. I read thru lots of the journals here, I don't see many folks using these products.

Dale.
 
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