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340g freshwater low light planted tank no co2

Discussion in 'Non-CO2 Methods' started by ascensive, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. ascensive

    ascensive Junior Poster

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    Hello guys, this is my first post. I have an aquarium, 340g, that is right now cycling as a saltwater fish only. I will have the measurements of the tank later today. It has been a saltwater tank for a while, but did some changes underneath recently, more gph and larger wet-dry. I am considering turning it into a planted tank, or an arowana tank, 3 rainbows. I have a 60g planted tank going right now. eco complete substrate, maybe 80 percent ec, and 20 just black moon sand i think? java fern, an amazon, java moss, another plant that i cant recall the name of, and a lot of anubias. the lighting is a coralife 6700k power compact, 48 inches. i was doing 50 percent water changes, but the plants would always start to grow algae. i havent done a water change in 2 months, and the plants havent looked better. so i am basically doing refills, and some spot cleaning, but really there is no build up of anything on the substrate surface. no algae on the glass either, and no dosing. 7 white clouds, 7 cardinal tetras, 8 rummy nose tetras, 2 corys, one albino pleco, about 5 inches, and 2 sae, a chinese algae eater, a yo yo loach, and a lot of algae eating shrimp, layin eggs and such.

    with that said, i know a 340g is nothing to compare to a 60g, but, what are the possibilites of turning it into a low light planted tank? i do not want co2. there is a wet-dry, and 3600 pump, and nothing for lighting as of yet. most of the plants in my 60 are plants that do not need to be planted in the substrate. the java is just latching onto the substrate to stay down. i would like to use mostly those types of plants, and not have to invest in eco complete for this tank if i do not have to. my rock stack and driftwood scaping will do fine with height and depth in the tank. like i said, later i will get the measurements, but if anyone has any thoughts at the moment, please share.
     
  2. Gerryd

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    Hi,

    I see no issue with you using the wet/dry/pump you have now. Just disenfect the wet/dry first, and replace all of the media. Clean and scrub everything you will use.

    I ran my 180 on a wet/dry/sump and a couple of mag drive 500 for years with no issues.

    You don't need eco-complete or other nutrient rich substrate for good plant growth, but it will help long term. You may want to look at the articles/threads on low light non-c02 EI dosing. I think the link is in here:

    http://www.barrreport.com/co2-aquatic-plant-fertilization/3205-fertilizer-routines-one.html

    but if not a search will find it. The above link is very worthwhile reading by itself.............

    With the plants you have and want to use, you could use T8 or T12 bulbs and be fine.........

    Please note that the higher the light level, the more the plants will try to grow. This then requires more c02 and nutrients.

    Once it is setup for a bit, you can see how you like the tank and the look and the amount of work it takes. You can then adjust from that point on.

    If you decide to spend some $, I would recommend a larger high pressure pump and 2 or 3 Ocean Clear or Nu Clear canister filters.

    I found my 180 is much healthier since I went to a closed loop canister like that. My wet/dry did well for years, but once I switched, the difference was apparent. Better mech and larger bio, less c02 loss, easy maintenance, better flow, etc.

    Best of luck. I envy you the large tank!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Keep us posted.
     
  3. Tom Barr

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    Why not meet at the local club Tues, 6:30-9pm(1st Tues of the month) at the Round Table?
    I'll be there.

    Or PM me and call, I live in Sac.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr
     
  4. ascensive

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    So I got the measurements for the tank. 8 feet long, 3 feet high, and 30 inches deep. Overflow is in the back left corner. I will need two 48 inch double strip compact florescent fixtures with 6700k lighting.

    Not sure yet on type of gravel, possibly all black "something" substrate, and then actually get some eco complete in some spots to grow crypto, any other low light plants, then the rest tie up java fern, moss, and anubias on the rock and driftwood.

    Has anyone seen a low light tank of this size posted anywhere online?
     
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