How to use Swagelok tube fittings

David

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This is very interesting.

I see it as a definite fix for the breakage-prone "JBJ" bubble counters and it is certainly more aesthetically pleasing.

My only question is, how do you count bubbles for CO2 levels using this method?
 

Matt F.

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David;84491 said:
This is very interesting.

I see it as a definite fix for the breakage-prone "JBJ" bubble counters and it is certainly more aesthetically pleasing.

My only question is, how do you count bubbles for CO2 levels using this method?

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Hi all,

Please note that my tube fittings have been in use on both my units for well over 1 year now and have never had an issue with them at all.

One of my better decisions to ask Matt to incorporate these in my build...
 

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Gerry,

I think these tube adapters with external bubble counters are still the way to go. Mine have been holding up extremely well with the ADA pressure resistant tubing, too.


Gerryd;85034 said:
Hi all,

Please note that my tube fittings have been in use on both my units for well over 1 year now and have never had an issue with them at all.

One of my better decisions to ask Matt to incorporate these in my build...
 

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r0ck0 said:
According to the norcal swagelok blog you do not need to replace the ferrules each time.

Skill: Tube fitting assembly, one inch and under


http://norcal.swagelok.com/blog/bid/...inch-and-under

That is interesting. I reuse the nuts, but I have never reused the ferrules. They get pretty smashed up. Good to know you can disconnect the tube from the adapter housing and reinstall the same tubing, etc. You have to replace the ferrules when you want to replace your CO2 tubing, though. ADA recommends you replace your pressure resistant tubing once a year to prevent leaks. It's virtually impossible to remove the ferrules once they are clamped onto the tube insert. Just makes sense to replace the ferrules, the tubing insert, and the tubing all at the same time.
 

oldpunk

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It just states the connection can be taken apart and reassembled a number of times. The ferrules are not reusable.
 

r0ck0

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To reassemble, insert the tube with pre-swaged ferrules into the fitting until the front ferrule seats against the fitting body.

That means you can reuse the same ferrules.
 

oldpunk

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I meant you can't take the ferrules off the tube and reuse them. That's all.
 

r0ck0

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Ah, I was under the impression that if you removed the tubing for any reason you would need to replace them. Well hope thats cleared up now lol.
 

oldpunk

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That's why I like the tube connection. One, it won't leak. And two, it's just one turn of a wrench to disconnect the tubing of your metering valve and its just as easy to reattach.
 

r0ck0

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I also read that with rigid tubing you do not need to use the tube inserts. With polyethylene tubing from the hardware store I shouldn't need inserts, correct?
 

oldpunk

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r0ck0 said:
I also read that with rigid tubing you do not need to use the tube inserts. With polyethylene tubing from the hardware store I shouldn't need inserts, correct?

Results may vary. That's for steel or brass, or even hard plastic. Soft tubing needs the insert. I guess it depends on how hard your tubing is.
 
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r0ck0

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The ss-ss4 metering valve uses 1/4" tube connections. Would it use part number ss-400-set 1/4" ferrules?
 

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r0ck0 said:
The ss-ss4 metering valve uses 1/4" tube connections. Would it use part number ss-400-set 1/4" ferrules?

Yes, assuming that you need the nuts and ferrules for it. 95% of the one's for sale out there come with these.