120 Gal Dutchy Freestyle - Now with 50% more Dutch!
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Haha, yeah that's a pregnant Amano. They actually breed like crazy, but no the offspring dont survive.
Have about 15 total and there's usually at least one carrying babies. Also find a lot of exoskeletons from molting. So apparently they are happy.
Have about 15 total and there's usually at least one carrying babies. Also find a lot of exoskeletons from molting. So apparently they are happy.
burr740 said:
Do you do anything in particular special for them (like feeding, if so what kind of food) because I have amanos and people say they breed like crazy, obviously offspring don't survive, but mine have never breed. I have both sexes to, to me I think its just the small space they are in maybe its just not spacious enough for them (five gallon long) to feel the need or, be ready to breed so to speak. my cherrys though on the other hand, are like your amanos in your tank to compare. They breed like crazy, and molt regularly.
PEdwards said:
Wow, thank you so much for the provided info! I found this one on Amazon for just $12:
https://www.amazon.com/Copper-Sulfat...keywords=CuSO4
It is CuSO4 A.C.S grade. We'll see what I'll do with this stuff...
A side question about this (you look an expert on this!): On the Zorfox's calculator I see just the CuSO4.5H2O. Will that work for the product I have bought? Or we'd need a different compound to use for just "CuSO4"?
I'll work to include that compound on the rotalabutterfly calculator as well.
Thanks a lot!
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Fablau,
I'm no expert, It just happens that I used to work for a company whose business is making liquid aquarium supplements.
You'll need to find some sort of guaranteed analysis on the package to tell you whether or not it's CuSO4 or CuSO4*5H2O. The water makes a big difference in molecular weight, which is what I'm betting your rotalabutterfly uses, am I right?
I'm no expert, It just happens that I used to work for a company whose business is making liquid aquarium supplements.
You'll need to find some sort of guaranteed analysis on the package to tell you whether or not it's CuSO4 or CuSO4*5H2O. The water makes a big difference in molecular weight, which is what I'm betting your rotalabutterfly uses, am I right?
fablau said:
In the image associated with your link, the bottle says 'pentahydrate', so it will be CuSO4*5H2O. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_of_crystallization for an intro to hydrated salts. Hydration state is a separate issue from chemical purity. Purity is indicated by 'ACS grade' or 'USP grade', which indicates how much impurity is acceptable in it in order to obtain that label.
Hydration state only makes a difference in the mass required to get a specific amount of the elements themselves. Weigh out 160 g of anhydrous CuSO4. Leave it sitting out exposed to room air for several weeks. Weigh it again -- It will likely be about 250 g, having picked up water from the atmosphere to become the pentahydrate. Anhydrous salts are not more expensive because they are more pure, they're more expensive because they have to cook the water out of the crystalline structure, then store it appropriately in order to keep it from rehydrating.
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Well nothing has died yet so that's a relief.
Most everything seems happy. Global pearling has increased, noticed this especially in the smaller tanks.
However, a couple things didnt like it at first,
Pantanal is looking rough again. It probably wasnt the best time for this to get trimmed and have nutrients taken away for a few days, but here we are...
One we havent talked much about is Ludwigia brevipes. Its been a drama free plant so far, nice light brown color, kinda branchy.
During the first couple of days it developed these white, necrotic looking patches near the tops. Seems to be moving past it though.
Also the Red Downoi lost a little color.
I believe all this just deficiencies from nutrients being reset to zero, and then taking a few doses to build back up. At least that's what Im telling myself.
The Syn giants are pale and generally looking rough. Probably gonna move these to the 50 and move on to something else in the foreground here.
Diplidis is happy
FTS from last night, notice several plants are closed up
Water change tomorrow, gonna tweak the right side a little bit.
Most everything seems happy. Global pearling has increased, noticed this especially in the smaller tanks.
However, a couple things didnt like it at first,
Pantanal is looking rough again. It probably wasnt the best time for this to get trimmed and have nutrients taken away for a few days, but here we are...
One we havent talked much about is Ludwigia brevipes. Its been a drama free plant so far, nice light brown color, kinda branchy.
During the first couple of days it developed these white, necrotic looking patches near the tops. Seems to be moving past it though.
Also the Red Downoi lost a little color.
I believe all this just deficiencies from nutrients being reset to zero, and then taking a few doses to build back up. At least that's what Im telling myself.
The Syn giants are pale and generally looking rough. Probably gonna move these to the 50 and move on to something else in the foreground here.
Diplidis is happy
FTS from last night, notice several plants are closed up
Water change tomorrow, gonna tweak the right side a little bit.
Christophe said:
Thank you for helping on this, this makes sense to me. I will see how to dose this stuff. And I will add it to rotalabutterfly. Appreciated!
PEdwards said:Fablau,
I'm no expert, It just happens that I used to work for a company whose business is making liquid aquarium supplements.
Yes, you are right. It looks being CuSO4*5H2O then. Appreciated your help!
burr740 said:Well nothing has died yet so that's a relief.
Most everything seems happy. Global pearling has increased, noticed this especially in the smaller tanks.
However, a couple things didnt like it at first,
Pantanal is looking rough again. It probably wasnt the best time for this to get trimmed and have nutrients taken away for a few days, but here we are...
One we havent talked much about is Ludwigia brevipes. Its been a drama free plant so far, nice light brown color, kinda branchy.
During the first couple of days it developed these white, necrotic looking patches near the tops. Seems to be moving past it though.
Also the Red Downoi lost a little color.
I believe all this just deficiencies from nutrients being reset to zero, and then taking a few doses to build back up. At least that's what Im telling myself.
The Syn giants are pale and generally looking rough. Probably gonna move these to the 50 and move on to something else in the foreground here.
Diplidis is happy
FTS from last night, notice several plants are closed up
Water change tomorrow, gonna tweak the right side a little bit.
Thank looks great Burr, I bet Pantanal will recover soon, I am sure it didn't like the drop of nutrients.
Burr, one question about making our own micros solutions: do you also add some vinegar to the bottle? If so, how much?
As a side note, I found some forgotten containers in my cabinet with some Mn and Zn compounds , I completely forgot to have bought them in the bast together with the Mobildenum one... I have all the needed traces to make my own as well
As a side note, I found some forgotten containers in my cabinet with some Mn and Zn compounds , I completely forgot to have bought them in the bast together with the Mobildenum one... I have all the needed traces to make my own as well
fablau said:Burr, one question about making our own micros solutions: do you also add some vinegar to the bottle? If so, how much?
As a side note, I found some forgotten containers in my cabinet with some Mn and Zn compounds , I completely forgot to have bought them in the bast together with the Mobildenum one... I have all the needed traces to make my own as well
Yeah regular distilled white vinegar. I add a cap full to 500 ml, think those caps are a little bigger than 5 ml, so probably 6-7 ml per 500 ml
Combine the water and vinegar first, let that sit for a couple of minutes, then add ferts.
Anything you dont have let me know, Ive got some CuSO4 too
Also starting to see a hint of interveinal chlorosis in the Saururus. Or is it just the way it looked when I sent it? It does not have that problem when grown emersed in top soil.
Thanks man. That's three young L sphaerocarpa still converting from emergent. Gonna take the Syns out and do 3-4 more right there.
Just an audition basically, to see how well it does/looks
It's more than a hint. Every leaf but the newest one has that. Ive watched 3 new ones come in on the big plant. They start out green.
Im wondering if this is just normal submerged growth, because every leaf is pretty much the same. I wouldnt expect a deficiency to be so uniform. Might be how it got the name Lizard's Tail?
Just an audition basically, to see how well it does/looks
Pikez said:
It's more than a hint. Every leaf but the newest one has that. Ive watched 3 new ones come in on the big plant. They start out green.
Im wondering if this is just normal submerged growth, because every leaf is pretty much the same. I wouldnt expect a deficiency to be so uniform. Might be how it got the name Lizard's Tail?
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burr740 said:
I'd be shocked if you don't do well with the sphaerocarpa. It likes light, CO2, and macros. Don't think it cares much about traces. I think higher traces improve color on most Ludwigia, but if you can get it growing vertically, you're golden.
You and Syns. Like me and wallichii.
So. The Saururus. Looks like mine. It looks like this in both my Dutch and Kill tank. Then again, our approach and world view on horticulture are somewhat aligned. I'd expect you to have some or most of the growth issues I have.
But here is the bad news: it does not look like this for many others. It used to be present in virtually all real Dutch tanks. In the Netherlands back until 1990s. Not much any more. I have seen lots of pictures of this plant in their tanks without this blotchiness. I'd bet money that it will not look like this in Tom's tank. LOL!
So what the heck is it? Some issue with Magnesium or Manganese it looks like. Probably not, but that's what one would conclude from a cursory glance.
I really like this plant. Big heart shaped leaves can't be found anywhere else. I'd move it to the back of the tank eventually.
The name Lizard's tail comes from its flower.