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Matt F.

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Yeah, I'd pay the premium for tissue cultures as well. I'd just like to see someone grow out some of the rarer plants and be a consistent source of the particular plants for hobbyists. I'd like to have a source when/if I want to scape with a particular plant. Charge a premium, I don't care. Just be a consistent source of the plant, so when creativity calls and you want to set up a new scape, we have a source for high quality rare plants.

I spent a long time isolating eleocharis belem from riccia when I was farming it. Would have been nice to just plant the one species and not have to worry about cutting out sections and replanting over the course of a year.

dantra;110834 said:
Where I am very few stores sell quality plants and if they do its pretty much the same everyday run of the mill basic stuff, some grown emerged and all carry critters. It's not about "keeping a sterile tank" (which is impossible and ridiculous), in fact it has nothing to do with that but everything with receiving healthy plants which gives you better control of plant quality and keeping the other pest down to a minimal. A sterile environment doesn't exist in this hobby however better control over the environment is always a plus.

I guess it has to do with what part of the country you're in or from, Some people are fortunate to have great aquarium stores that cater to beautiful heathy plants for its customers but the stores for the most part all carry the same stuff with a few exceptions of course. If I recall correctly, tissue culture media isn't subjected to a "seasonal" handicap if you will and can be grown any time of the year. Obviously its not for everyone but I for one am very excited.

If I found a place to purchase
tissue culture media locally from, that would be all I would deal with, but that's just me. Some like Eheim, others like Fluval. Some people like snails in their tank while others can't stand them. It all balls down to personal preference.

Dan
 

Yo-han

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Matt F.;119256 said:
Yeah, I'd pay the premium for tissue cultures as well. I'd just like to see someone grow out some of the rarer plants and be a consistent source of the particular plants for hobbyists. I'd like to have a source when/if I want to scape with a particular plant. Charge a premium, I don't care. Just be a consistent source of the plant, so when creativity calls and you want to set up a new scape, we have a source for high quality rare plants.

I spent a long time isolating eleocharis belem from riccia when I was farming it. Would have been nice to just plant the one species and not have to worry about cutting out sections and replanting over the course of a year.

The problem with this is that the demand looks high on the internet but in the end only a few dozen people want those rare plants. Second, the people who want those rare plants, want them because they are rare. Once commonly available, they're not rare anymore and they want other plants. When a nursery takes the time to setup a new plant and it doesn't sell, it is just as easily discarded.
 

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Yo-han;119460 said:
The problem with this is that the demand looks high on the internet but in the end only a few dozen people want those rare plants. Second, the people who want those rare plants, want them because they are rare. Once commonly available, they're not rare anymore and they want other plants. When a nursery takes the time to setup a new plant and it doesn't sell, it is just as easily discarded.

I've also found that even if a nursery does take the time to produce those plants no LFS will carry them because they are too expensive and difficult for them to keep in their shop. Florida Aquatic Nurseries produces Pogostemon helferi and I have never seen it in any LFS ever.
 

Yo-han

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Really? P. helferi is one of our best selling foreground plants. I think it is quite common available in the Netherlands. Always funny to see the differences.
 

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Yo-han;119476 said:
Really? P. helferi is one of our best selling foreground plants. I think it is quite common available in the Netherlands. Always funny to see the differences.

Notoriously hard to find in the USA. I sell out in hours if I offer it for sale.
 

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Yo-han;119476 said:
Really? P. helferi is one of our best selling foreground plants. I think it is quite common available in the Netherlands. Always funny to see the differences.

Notoriously hard to find in the USA. I sell out in hours if I offer it for sale.
 

Whiskey

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What about a light and PAR Meter pair?

The par meter could have easy to read markings like "Low, Med, High" and it would mean it wouldn't have to be all that accurate.

And, if you calibrated it to the one light only, you wouldn't need an expensive sensor because rather than isolating light colors that fall into PAR ranges you can just calibrate the light sensor based on the spectral output of the light you produce then give warnings saying it only works with a Barr light fixture.

Then make 20,000 of them in a factory in china. The meter could be really cheap to produce, useful to aquarists, and a feature no other fixture has.

Whiskey